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Chai, Motorcycle Test & Secrets Revealed | Drift Off with Cozy, Meandering Talk

3/22/2016

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Looking for a sleep podcast to fall asleep fast, reduce anxiety, and quiet an overactive mind? This calming episode of The Insomnia Project is designed for insomnia relief, stress reduction, and gentle nighttime unwinding through slow, soothing conversation.
Marco Timpano and Nidhi Khanna share a relaxed discussion about chai tea, everyday comforts, and preparing for life’s small challenges. From tasting and talking about chai to reflecting on an upcoming motorcycle test, this episode offers low-stimulation, easygoing content perfect for bedtime listening.
As the conversation gently unfolds, it drifts into small confessions and personal stories, embracing the meandering, stream-of-consciousness style that helps ease racing thoughts and promote relaxation. With soft-spoken storytelling and unhurried pacing, this calming podcast episode creates a peaceful environment ideal for sleep, stress relief, or quiet background listening.
Whether you’re searching for a sleep podcast for insomnia, calming background noise while you work, or a gentle way to unwind at the end of the day, The Insomnia Project offers a comforting, reliable escape.
​Chai, Motorcycle Test & Secrets Revealed
(Original airdate: Aug 17, 2016)

Marco: : Welcome to the Insomnia Project. Sit back, relax and listen as we have a conversation about the mundane. Um, one thing that we can promise you is that our conversation will be less than fascinating so that you can just feel free to, well, I guess just drift off. Thank you for joining us. We hope you will listen and sleep. I'm your host, Marco Timpano.

Nidhi:  And I'm your co host Nidhi Khanna.

Marco: : In Nidhi, we always mention that, um, our listeners should feel free to rate us on itunes.

Nidhi:  We hope that they do.

Marco: : It'd be nice.

Nidhi:  Hopefully they're falling asleep.

Marco: : Well, if they're not, I do want to mention this, Nidhi, because someone said this to me. We want to put a little warning. This is our first warning of our podcast. Do not operate heavy machinery and do not listen to our podcast when you're driving.

Nidhi:  I. You know what? That's. Yes, you're right, Marco. Maybe we should actually have that on our marketing copy or our website copy because, uh, you know, the last few episodes where we've had some special guests on. I've actually fallen asleep to them.

Marco: : So Nidhi actually told me that it took her three listens to get through a particular episode. I won't say which one.

Nidhi:  No. Yes.

Marco: : But you kept falling asleep.

Nidhi:  Yeah. So, success.


We are recording tonight's episode from Niddy's new home

Marco: : We are recording tonight's episode from Niddy's new home.

Nidhi:  Yes, my beautiful new place, which I am very excited about. Um, it's got a. You know what, it's got a bit of a recording style to it, I guess. You know, the neutral walls and this

Marco: : desk is perfect for it. So we're recording once again from Toronto and Niddy's new home. And I want to mention that Niddy made me a chai tea. And if you listen to past episodes, Nidhi has always promised to make me a chai tea from scratch. And because we're in her home, she took out a mortar and pestle. Or do you say pestle?

Nidhi:  I believe it's pestle.

Marco: : It's actually supposedly pronounced pestle, even though it's spelt pestle. I got into a huge debate about this with Melissa d', Agostino, who will have on the show. I believe it was her with regards to the proper pronunciation of mortar. And I say pestle. She says pestle. You, our listeners, can be the judge. Tweet us at, uh, listen and sleep on how you pronounce mortar and its accompanying word. I guess I won't say it again. You figure out how you say it. But Nitty took. Took this out and you started to crush, or pestle, I guess, cloves and cardamom.

Nidhi:  And you grated some ginger, fennel, Cinnamon.

Marco: : Cinnamon. And you boiled it all up in a burner that you said was too hot.

Nidhi:  You know what, Marco? I'll be honest now.

Marco: : I think it's fantastic.

Nidhi:  It's not my. It's not my best cup of chai.

Marco: : It is certainly the best I've ever had.

Nidhi:  Well, thank you. Um, chai is one of those, uh, things or. Or the way that you make it. You really need to, um, let the spices simmer and infuse. Right. Move up to a, uh, boiling point. But this being a new burner, kind of boiled a little too soon, so I still need to work at it. I think the next time we record here, I will make you another cup of chai.

Marco: : Amazing.

Nidhi:  And you can compare it to this one.

Marco: : You know, it's funny. I was thinking about when I was in India, and all I wanted to do was get a chai latte, and no one would let me. The closest thing I got was a cardamom tea.

Nidhi:  Wow. A chai latte doesn't exist in India, so that's one thing.

Marco: : Okay. Maybe that's why people looked at me like it was.

Nidhi:  But also, you wanted. You wanted a chai from, like, the chai vala on the street.

Marco: : Yes. Nobody would let me.

Nidhi:  No, because you would have been violently ill.

Marco: : I disagree with that. I think my constitution.

Nidhi:  I wouldn't even have a chai from the chai while on the street. Well, actually, maybe you would have been okay, because you're boiling the water to such a high degree.

Marco: : That's what I say. And I feel like everyone's like, oh, when you go away, don't drink the water. Don't eat the fruit. Don't eat the ice cream.

Nidhi:  No. So in India, don't want to go. I could kind of attest to the fact that you don't want to drink the water or have raw fruit. Uh, actually, I don't know about fruit, but they used to say not to have salad in, like, restaurants because. Or, like raw food, because you don't know how, um, they've been washed and

Marco: : if there's water on them.

Nidhi:  And I once got very ill. Well,

Marco: : I'm still sad that I didn't get my tea off the streets like I wanted. Perhaps one day when you were.


In Ontario, you need a motorcycle license if you have a scooter

You, uh, you and I are in India. You will help me make that dream a realization.

Nidhi:  I will. Okay, I will do that for you.

Marco: : But, um, I'm going for my motorcycle license this weekend.

Nidhi:  Now, it's funny when you say that, Marco, because when I think when I first met you, my impression was not, this guy must drive a motorcycle. And I think that when, like, people think about people who have motorcycles, there's an image that you might have in your head. Um, and so I guess the question becomes, what was it about a motorcycle that you gravitated towards? And I know that part of the answer is that you don't really have a traditional motorcycle.

Marco: : I've never Wanted to drive a motorcycle. I'll be honest, a little bit. They scare me. I own a scooter and I've always loved scooters and I've always wanted to order. Oh, sorry, own a scooter. But in this province of Ontario, you need to have a motorcycle license if you have a scooter that goes over

Nidhi:  150cc's so not those electric, um, bikes that you know.

Marco: : If you have an electric bike, which my wife has, you can drive it with out as if you had a regular bike. But when you have a motorized scooter, you have to get a motorcycle license, which is a little bit weird because I think they should have a scooter license. For people who want to just drive a scooter in the city, that's not the case. So we have this graduated motorcycle license which requires you to do a written test. And then, I believe within 90 days you then do a bit of a road test where you get your M, um, two. So the M M1 would be the written license. The M2 is the driver's license which you, you have up to three years to get your regular M. Um. So the graduated license so that you have the full license. So the first time I got it, I had the M M1, the M2, and, and I let the time lapse, which means I couldn't get my M M license because I didn't graduate it in the amount of time that the government allots you to. So this time around.

Nidhi:  So did you have to go back to zero?

Marco: : I had to do the written test and then do once again the little driving test which is like, you know, they put a couple of pylons and you have to sort of circle your way through them. And there's a part of the test where you go from point A to point B within a certain amount of seconds. You have to do it relatively quickly. It's a little bit silly and it's pretty easy to get. So there you go. The next test requires me to go on the highway with my scooter and go in excess of 100 km an hour. I know.

Nidhi:  Does your scooter even go that?

Marco: : That it does, but I'm a little bit not wanting to go that fast on a scooter. I don't think it's wise, but that's going to be part of my new test. And I'm a little bit like, really? Really? I have a scooter and I have to get the same test that a motorcycle, that a proper motorcycle, Harley Davidson even Just a Yamaha or BMW or, you know, you name the motorcycle.

Nidhi:  So describe your scooter. So I've seen your scooter. It's kind of like a red Vespa.

Marco: : Yeah, it's kind of like an old school Vespa. It's actually called Stella. So it's made by Stella. And I've had quite a few problems with it. This, this Stella that I got for some reason had issues and I blame the company.

Nidhi:  It's a lemon. Stella is a lemon.

Marco: : It's a little bit of a. I would, I would caution people if they're gonna get a suitor, do your due diligence.

Nidhi:  Okay. Did you take the Stella out for like a test drive when you bought it or how does it work with the scooter?

Marco: : No, the place I bought it and I'm not gonna name them, of course. Um, you bought it. And then I had to wait, I think about 5 months M for it to come in, which was ridiculous.

Nidhi:  It was coming from Italy, it was coming from India. Uh, so, uh, I don't, I can kind of see where this is going.

Marco: : Well, it's interesting. So Stella bought out a factory in India that was making Vespas, old school looking Vespas. And we like the look of the old school looking Vespas and that's what we wanted. But to purchase one of those, like 1960s Vespa was going to cost a great deal of money because you're buying this vintage scooter, etc. Etc. So rather we decided to purchase a bike that was essentially a Vespa, uh, stamped in India or made. When I say stamped, I mean like, like the production was made in India where all they did was change the name from Vespa to Stella. But you were getting this old type of, uh, Vespa that was still manufactured in India, which was no longer manufactured in Italy because the Vespas they were manufacturing in Italy have a new sort of modern look to it. Follow.

Nidhi:  Gotcha. Ah.

Marco: : So we bought this Stella and we loved it. And there was a mosquito in the. Oh, I wish I could remember exactly where it was in some sort of flap that distributed air to the vehicle that there was a bug. It wasn't necessarily a mosquito, like a dead bug. Dead bug. A dead bug that was trapped in, in some little hose that distributed air. And we were having all kinds of problems because of that. And that supposedly came from where it was manufactured. And then I just had to replace, uh, the speed.

Nidhi:  I feel like that's how like in, in sci fi movies Viruses are spread around the world. It's a contagion right there or something, I'm telling you.

Marco: : So that was one of the issues we had. Now don't get me wrong, I love riding this scooter. I love the look of the scooter.

Nidhi:  It's a beautiful scooter.

Marco: : I just don't like the problems that came with it, of course. So. And it was not a cheap scooter to purchase, let's say.


Part of getting your motorcycle license requires a leather jacket or motorcycle jacket

So anyways, I've, um, got a little bitter taste in my mouth, shall we say. And now I've got to do this test on tomorrow. I'm taking the in class test. I don't know what that's gonna. Or the in class lesson, let's say. I don't think there's a test with that.

Nidhi:  Uh, so this is the in class lesson for you to be able to take the scooter on the highway for the actual practical lesson?

Marco: : No. So I could take the test through the government, like, you know, I don't know even what we call, what the U.S. would call the DMV department. Department.

Nidhi:  It is the DMV.

Marco: : No, it's not in the States, but what do we call it in here?

Nidhi:  Um, in Quebec it's the saaq. Right here it is the Ministry of.

Marco: : I know we're both terrible. We're gonna sound. It's through Surface Ontario.

Nidhi:  It is. It is. Essentially.

Marco: : I, I'm certain there's listeners right now getting upset rather than relaxing because they're like, don't you know that the name is the Ministry of the.

Nidhi:  We're also talking about the Ministry of something or the other on here.

Marco: : Oh, you know who we should be asking this to?

Nidhi:  Who?

Marco: : Our vehicle expert, Dale Boyer. Uh, shout out to her. Anyway, so basically I decided to take it through a course. So I've registered with a course that was highly recommended. And part of getting the last part of your motorcycle license is you take an in class lesson and you then on, um, the Saturday, on the Sunday, I'm going to be taking the vehicle test. So I was looking at what they require and one of the things they require is a leather jacket or a motorcycle jacket.

Nidhi:  No. Do they really?

Marco: : Because we're going to be going really fast. I don't have, I don't have a leather jacket. I have a fake leather jacket, but I don't have a leather jacket and I don't have a motorcycle jacket. So between now and Sunday I've got to get my hands on a leather jacket. Now my dad has a leather jacket that my father, father in law gave me that I didn't want to wear that is emblazoned. It's kind of like a. You know those jackets that have the company name on it. Beautiful leather jacket. It feels soft like butter. But I'm not one to wear anything that's got logos on it. So I gave it to my dad. So I'm pretty much outing myself to my family.

Nidhi:  That you are. I was just about to say you just regifted your father in law's gift to your father. Father.

Marco: : Right. My dad loved it.

Nidhi:  Did it have like the symbion like logo?

Marco: : I'm not gonna mention what name it had on it. Um, and I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna divulge any more of that information because I already looked bad on this particular episode.

Nidhi:  I think we need to talk to your, uh, father in law next time he's on the show about said jacket.

Marco: : I'll let you do that.


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Nidhi:  but we are Marco. Um, in the Queen west area of Toronto and in this area there is a ton of thrift shops and actually I was walking down the street the other day and there was a thrift shop for full of jean jackets and leather jackets which to our listeners who might not know Toronto very well is indicative of just how hipster ish this entire area is. Um, so finding a leather jacket in this area won't be difficult. Uh, I also have a leather jacket

Marco: : however, would it fit me?

Nidhi:  I'm gonna go ahead and say probably not. But I think we can try listening.

Marco: : I wouldn't have a problem with it. I often this is something you probably don't know about me nitty. But you know how you buy inexpensive glasses and you lose them? I recently lost my good pair of Armani glasses Sunglasses. I left them in a restaurant in Edmonton. Don't want to talk about it. It's a. It's a. It was a pork restaurant that didn't have brunch, and that's why I left. So anyways, I'm not going to talk about it.

Nidhi:  The pork restaurant didn't have.

Marco: : It was like all pork items. And it was, uh, a Sunday at 11. And I went into this restaurant, I was all excited because I was gonna have, like, bacon and bacon and eggs and pulled pork. And in my mind I was gonna get a, um, pulled pork. Eggs Benedict. That's what I wanted. They didn't have it. All I could get was a hamburger or something. So I left in a fury. Not in a fury. I just left. I thanked them and I left. And I left my glasses there, of course.

Nidhi:  Karma.

Marco: : So then I've been buying these inexpensive glasses and a pair that actually Dale Boye's dad gave me from the Honda Racing because he was working the Formula One in Toronto.

Nidhi:  The Indy.

Marco: : The Indy. Sorry. Thank you. The Indy. Because the Formula One's in Montreal. Right.

Nidhi:  Or New France, as some people.

Marco: : Yes. We were discussing how. I was like, you know, Nidhi, you're actually from New France. We got into a whole discussion, but that. We'll talk about that. If not in this episode. Another episode. Because I'm an Upper Canadian. So we, um. She had these white glasses that I was wearing that. I love that. That her dad got me from. And they were just swag glasses. It said Honda racing on it. And then they broke. I think one of the passengers that my wife was driving stepped on them. Because my wife apologized, but she didn't say what happened to, um, them. And so that's what I said.

Nidhi:  Passengers that she was driving.

Marco: : We had some people over and she was driving in somewhere. I suspect someone stepped on it.

Nidhi:  Okay.

Marco: : I won't mention names. Even though this is like. This seems to be the episode where I'm just calling myself and everybody out on stuff and just get. This is the episode where everyone gets in trouble.

Nidhi:  So, uh, it was probably, though, we should say Margot, if it was someone who has been visiting your home in the last few weeks, then it may have been one of the guests that we've actually had on this.

Marco: : You're not helping me at all through this episode. So let's. Let's just leave it there.


I think sunglasses are a part of someone's personality or glasses in general

Nidhi:  All right?

Marco: : So I've been losing and breaking glasses for the last, I don't know, five years. So when I'm driving in the car, I don't have any sunglasses. But Amanda has a ton of sunglasses. So I'm always wearing her sunglasses when I'm driving. And her sunglasses are very, um, feminine. I don't want to say feminine, but very. Let's say, non masculine. So I look a little bit like what you would think that Elton John would wear driving his car is what I'm. And sometimes we're going to a wedding, so I'm wearing a suit or what? I'm wearing these large, dramatic, dramatic glasses. Right. And I don't have a problem with it. I really don't care. Unlike. They shield me from the sun. I'm totally cool with it. But sometimes I'll get strange looks from people beside me. M. I'm like, I'll turn to a man. I'm like, why is that guy looking at me so weird? And she's like, look at the glasses you wear. Oh, I forgot. So I. I don't have qualms about wearing stuff that.

Nidhi:  No, but I think glasses. So most glasses are kind of have a bit of a unisex flavor to them. They're not really masculine or feminine. But I do think that, like, sunglasses are a part of something. Someone's personality or glasses in general. Right. So, um, when you are taking on the sunglasses or glasses of another person, the frames just somehow might not look right on your face, like with the structure of your face or but more with the personality of who you are. So someone who's really comfortable wearing big, dramatic, bold glasses that might not look. Have the same, I don't know. Flavor in someone who has more, you know, standard muted frames, let's say.

Marco: : Right.


Marco got his motorcycle license in Quebec and took a practical test

Anyways, back to getting my motorcycle license.

Nidhi:  Yes, please.

Marco: : I'm gonna be driving my scooter on the highway at some point on Sunday, so I need to get myself a leather jacket.

Nidhi:  Do you need leather gloves?

Marco: : I have leather gloves. Why do you have those?

Nidhi:  I believe I have the driving gloves. Like.

Marco: : Okay, well, if I can't find them, I'll be. I'll be getting those boots. Yeah, uh, I've got the boots. The high boots and jeans that are not ripped are some of the things that they work on.

Nidhi:  Well, I think you can find that.

Marco: : Oh, yeah, that's fine. I'm wearing these jeans. I have a rip, but you can't really see it, so. But we won't get into that either.

Nidhi:  So do they examine your wardrobe before you go out?

Marco: : I would imagine. And the helmet has to be an approved helmet, which I agree with.

Nidhi:  Yes. Um, do you need glasses, though, sunglasses?

Marco: : You know, I used to have goggles with my helmet and I can't find them. I don't know. I've got to look if I need glasses.

Nidhi:  Do you need a scarf?

Marco: : No. I think scarves are kind of dangerous when you're. You've got to be careful with scarves when you're on.

Nidhi:  Oh, I guess you're on the highway.

Marco: : Let me ask you this. When you got your driver's license. License.

Nidhi:  Yes.

Marco: : What was it like? Did you pass the first time you got it?

Nidhi:  I did. And I will tell you this, Marco. I was. I, uh, had taken. So I got my driver's license in Quebec. Uh, where you took the written test and then you had, I don't know, what was it, three, six months or something to do all the lessons for the practice component. Um, and then you were able to take the practical test. I went there. And so the way the practical test worked was, uh, we booked a time and then my driving instructor drove all of us there and there was like three of us taking the test around the same time. So he drives you there, you take the test and you'll come back on the way there. Um, there was one person who was, uh, considered like a shoe in to get this test, and then there was me, who he kind of kept, I don't know, try to pep talk me.

Marco: : He was like your coach.

Nidhi:  Yeah. Like, it's okay if you don't get it on your first try. It's okay. Like a lot of people don't get on their first try.

Marco: : Right.

Nidhi:  You know, uh, you never know what's gonna happen. Sometimes these guys have quotas and they. All that stuff.

Marco: : I just want to say Ministry of Transportation.

Nidhi:  Um, that would make sense. Um, so we end up, ah, at the DMV or the Ministry of Transportation or the saaq, um, in Quebec. And, uh, I take the exam and bidee. And I was really nervous that he would. That the guy would ask me to parallel park. Cause I wasn't good at parallel parking. But the only.

Marco: : You're pretty awesome at it now.

Nidhi:  I am.

Marco: : Is it because in Quebec it's tighter spaces and in Ontario the parallel parking. You've got more. Because I think you're a good parallel parker.

Nidhi:  You know what? I think it's because when you're learning to drive, at least at that time, you did a lot. You did the perpendicular, like backing into a space. But you never really practice that much of the parallel parking.

Marco: : I see.

Nidhi:  Because I think you only needed to actually. I don't know. Anyway, whatever. I was afraid they were gonna Ask me for parallel parking. The guy didn't. He was really nice at the end. He was like, you have excellent control of the vehicle. Don't forget to check your blind spots when you're running around, when you're turning corners. And I was like, interesting. That seems like a big deal for me to not have checked that. But he was really sweet and passed me. This was shocking to my driver's instructions. My driving instructor. Driver. Driving instructor. Um, particularly because the girl that he thought would pass failed. Oh, I know.

Marco: : We're really. Do you know her name? Because we should, we should really out. Since this is the episode where we're like, I know. Getting everybody in trouble.


Marco got his driver's license at 16 after accidentally hitting a tail light

Nidhi:  Um, well, I went back home, um, at 16 years of age and walked through my door and told my mom I passed my driver's test. And she had a look of like shock and awe. I can only describe, of like. She literally said, I didn't think you were actually gonna pass that.

Marco: : Wow. No one had faith in me.

Nidhi:  Nobody had faith in me. So that is how I got my driver's license.

Marco: : Well, listen, I've driven in the car with you and I think you're a great driver.

Nidhi:  Well, that's great because let me tell you the end of this story.

Marco: : Story.

Nidhi:  Mark, about three months later.

Marco: : Here we go. This is the episode where everything comes out.

Nidhi:  About three months later, I hit a tail light on a car.

Marco: : Oh, no.

Nidhi:  At the age of, um. Whatever. I'm sure there's statute of limitations on this. I'm hoping. It was a tail light. And I freaked out. I didn't know what to do. It was that Blockbuster Video.

Marco: : They don't exist anymore.

Nidhi:  They don't exist anymore. And I, uh, I booted out of there.

Marco: : Wow.

Nidhi:  I know.

Marco: : Did you damage their tailor?

Nidhi:  I can't remember. I'm hoping not because that's an awful thing to do.

Marco: : You're a horrible person.

Nidhi:  I am a horrible person.

Marco: : I once took my dad's car and it was the company car and it was a really nice car and I got nine of my friends in it.

Nidhi:  Oh, no. How big was this car?

Marco: : It could comfortably fit four. Legally it could fit nine. Uh, legally it could fit five. I had nine in it. It was Halloween and I just got everybody to pile it my car. This is not. I don't advise this. I don't recommend it. I was wrong in every sense of the word. So I'm just fessing up to, you know, my stupidity as a, ah, 17 year old. And I bumped it against something. So there was a, A Small little notch in the fender. And never told my family. Just parked the car. And, um, maybe two weeks later my dad came and said, I think someone in the supermarket bumped my car because there's a little bit notch in it. I was like, that's terrible. Supermarkets are the worst. So I wasn't really lovely about that.

Nidhi:  What? Oh, that. That's. I think that's amazing because, um, how else are you gonna get out of that situation, really? You just have to pretend it didn't happen.

Marco: : I shouldn't have gotten behind people. Dude, I just want to say this out loud. Do not exceed the number of people that your vehicle. That's dangerous, and I don't recommend it. And it was dumb of me. And do not listen to this podcast while driving or operating heavy machines. What's the. What's the heaviest machinery you've ever operated?

Nidhi:  Oh, good question. I. I'm guessing a car. Really? I haven't operated, like, a truck or bus or anything like that, or a tractor. How about you?

Marco: : I operated a truck with a trailer of, I don't know, 150 bikes on the back and 25 bucks, um, 25 buck bikes on the roof through Europe. Um, it was insane. And I had to counter steer.

Nidhi:  Oh, my gosh.

Marco: : With all these bikes, but I should not have been allowed to drive this, but supposedly.

Nidhi:  Did any of the bikes ever fall off?

Marco: : No, no, they were secured. And to be quite honest with you, knock on wood. I had no issues, um, driving in Europe. I scraped the side of a building a little bit, but it was through a narrow street in southern Italy, and the window had been scraped so much by our vans that their blinds, their vertical blinds were dented or contorted because of it. There was no way going through this

Nidhi:  space without doing it.

Marco: : Without doing it. So it was acceptable in Europe.

Nidhi:  Marco.


This is the last episode of Insomnia podcast

So since this is the episode where we are talking about all things that are to be revealed, what is the. Okay, what is that thing that you like that lie you told as a kid where looking back now, you're like, my parents totally knew that was a lie.

Marco: : Well, I have to say that it was definitely the. Oh, you know what, Niddy? We've reached the end of our show, so I will save, uh, it maybe for another time.

Nidhi:  Excellent.

Marco: : Until then, we were glad that you, um, followed us along here on the Insomnia project. As always, these are shows produced by

Nidhi:  drumcast Productions, and we hope that you will listen and sleep. Follow us on Twitter, rate us on itunes. Until the next time.
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