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​Motorcycles, Movies & Photography
(Original airdate: Aug 24, 2016)

>> Marco Timpano: Welcome to the Insomnia Project. Sit back, relax and listen as we have a conversation about the mundane. One thing that we can promise, or at least we try to promise, is that our conversation will be less than fascinating. So you can just drift off. We m invite you to rate us on itunes. Thank you for joining us. We hope that you will listen and sleep. I'm your host, Marco Timpano.

>> Nidhi Khanna: And I'm your co host, Nidhi Khanna.

>> Marco Timpano: Nidhi, I'm happy to report that I did pass my motorcycle test. We were talking about that on the last episode.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Congratulations.

>> Marco Timpano: Thank you.

>> Nidhi Khanna: What was, uh, the most difficult part of the test?

>> Marco Timpano: Uh, it's interesting because I drive a scooter and so part of the test that you have to do in this province of Ontario requires you to go onto a highway with your vehicle. So if you're going for the motorcycle test, the majority of people who were engaged, um, in the course had um, motorcycles. So they were used to going on to highways. I never went on the highway with my scooter. So not only was it the first time being on the highway, but it was the first time was my testing. So I was a little bit, um, nervous about that because I had never really gone past 70 kilometers an hour. And the highway of course here in Canada is a hundred kilometers an hour, at least the one that I went on. So I had to go on to the, what we call the qew, which is a highway here in Toronto which stands for the Queen Elizabeth Way. And um, I was a bit, I was a bit nervous. But my instructor, who is fantastic, her name is Ginny Allen and her school is called Motor, uh, Soul. You know, Nidhi, when you take a class with a teacher who's very passionate about the course material or about the, but the content, well, um, you could tell that Ginny loved, loves motorcycles, loves, um, teaching people about driving and getting their licenses and whatnot. And so she was a fantastic and fantastic teacher. So she actually eased a lot of my fears with regards to going on the highway. And as a result, I mean, I wasn't, you know, look at me, I'm on the highway. But I was much more comfortable thanks to her in the course that I took.


Marco said the highway component of the test was the most difficult

>> Nidhi Khanna: So I was going to ask because last time we spoke you had also mentioned that the highway component was the most difficult or the one that was causing you the most, um, not anxiousness, but nervousness, perhaps. So I'm glad to hear that it went well and, uh, that you're here, right, to talk about it.

>> Marco Timpano: Yes.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Uh, now I drive the QEW every day, Marco, and I find that sometimes you'll have those huge trucks, uh, kind of back and forth, and you'll get m. I have a very small car.

>> Marco Timpano: Right.

>> Nidhi Khanna: And I find sometimes it get kind of get sandwiched between two mega trucks.

>> Marco Timpano: Right.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Or what feels like mega trucks. Uh, and did you know that a truck. Did you tell me this? That a truck can lose a wheel and still drive?

>> Marco Timpano: No, I didn't tell you this, but I. I do know that to be true.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Okay, I didn't know that. Anyways, all this to say, my rambling question is, did you. Did you find yourself kind of weaving in and out of the traffic or did you find yourself very like, I'm gonna stay within this lane and not move and try not to, like, change lanes so that we can be very calm and, uh, like. You didn't try anything spectacular? I guess not. Because it was a test.

>> Marco Timpano: Well, part of the test is to get onto the highway and then to change lanes, so go into another lane and then change. So I did have to do that. Thankfully, my test was on Sunday, and as a result, um, the highway wasn't as trafficked with big, large vehicles and trucks because it was Sunday traffic. And my first stint on the highway, I was actually in slower moving traffic because of the time that I got on, which was great. And then going on the highway, coming back, it was faster. But thankfully I had just been on the highway, so I sort of got acclimatized to it, I guess, or used to it. And, um.

>> Nidhi Khanna: And is the person who is evaluating you, are they on the back of the. Of the scooter?

>> Marco Timpano: No, they're in a van. Or in this particular case, I think this is true for all the tests. But in this case, Ginny, who was my teacher and at this point was examining me, or was, I should say my examiner was in a van with a headset so that she could communicate to me and tell me up ahead, you're going to be turning left at the next traffic light or whatnot.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Okay.

>> Marco Timpano: And so you're allowed a possible 25 errors out of. I think it was 400, I think she said, but I could be off. But you're allowed 25 errors.

>> Nidhi Khanna: And what was yours?

>> Marco Timpano: 11. Proudly 11.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Wow. Congratulations, Marco.

>> Marco Timpano: I'm glad I now have my full m. Um license.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Wonderful.

>> Marco Timpano: And going to the, um, department of Transportation to get it was quite a hassle. But that's another story for another day. But, yeah.


Marco: Do you like dried fruit in your rice or salads

>> Nidhi Khanna: Well, in order to wish you congratulations, I have, uh, these two dessert. Like, um, tartlets.

>> Marco Timpano: I don't know. They look really beautiful.

>> Nidhi Khanna: I don't know what they call them, but, uh, my friend Diana, who is from Montreal, had come to visit me when I moved into this place, uh, a couple of weeks ago. And she made these from scratch. And they're, uh, peach and cinnamon. I don't even. Again, tartlets? Sure. With coconut cream.

>> Marco Timpano: Doesn't matter which one I take while you're describing them. I'm gonna have a, um, bite.

>> Nidhi Khanna: And they're sweetened with dates.

>> Marco Timpano: And what's this on top?

>> Nidhi Khanna: Peach.

>> Marco Timpano: Oh, that's peach yellow.

>> Nidhi Khanna: So I hope it's still good.

>> Marco Timpano: Oh, it's great. I like that you say, I hope

>> Nidhi Khanna: it's so good as you're eating it. Um, so congratulations. I don't have any napkins for you.

>> Marco Timpano: No problem.

>> Nidhi Khanna: But, um, I will get one shortly. Uh, thank you.

>> Marco Timpano: To. I'm sorry. Diane.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Diana.

>> Marco Timpano: Diana. Delicious Diana. And there's no sugar in it. You were saying?

>> Nidhi Khanna: There's no sugar in it. No refined sugar in it. With dates.

>> Marco Timpano: Do you like dates?

>> Nidhi Khanna: I do. I like dates. I like figs. I like those dried fruits. I don't like dried apricots, though.

>> Marco Timpano: I see.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Is it apricots or apricots?

>> Marco Timpano: I say apricots.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Okay.

>> Marco Timpano: So, I don't know. Um, what about prunes?

>> Nidhi Khanna: Uh, I enjoy prunes. I won't have prunes on a regular basis, but, you know, I'll have it every now and then. Uh, what I don't like, Marco, is dried fruit in my rice. Do you know how? Like, dried food.

>> Marco Timpano: Fruit in your rice?

>> Nidhi Khanna: Yeah. So you know how like, uh, Moroccan dishes or m. Mediterranean dishes or even Indian, like, Palau will have different dried fruit in the melange of, like, the. The rice, you know?

>> Marco Timpano: Sure.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Uh, so I'm less of a fan of that.

>> Marco Timpano: Okay.

>> Nidhi Khanna: But I enjoy them on their own.

>> Marco Timpano: Do you like fruit, whether it be dried or actual chunks of fresh fruit in your salad?

>> Nidhi Khanna: Oh, good question.

>> Marco Timpano: Uh, Amanda will often put, like, um. What are they called? Craisins. So cran. So dehydrated cranberries. Or she'll put oranges in my salad along with walnuts or strawberries or something.

>> Nidhi Khanna: It depends. I, uh. I like cranberries, but I'm not really big on, like, oranges or the citrus in my salads. I do enjoy a watermelon and feta salad. Though. Have you ever had those?

>> Marco Timpano: No, I haven't. And I'm really into watermelon, so I need to now. It's, it's, it's all around, so I would love to grab some and, and

>> Nidhi Khanna: just watermelon, feta and cement out of this. Super yummer. Yummer. That's a new word that I just created.

>> Marco Timpano: Now, Nidhi, we were talking earlier and I told you that in high school I won a photography award for one of my courses, which was a photography course that my high school had. You could, you could, you know, learn how to develop black and white photos in the dark room and all that kind of stuff.

>> Nidhi Khanna: So old school.

>> Marco Timpano: Old school. Like, you know, you take the negative and you'd.


Do people even have dark rooms anymore with the digital age

>> Nidhi Khanna: Do people even have dark rooms anymore?

>> Marco Timpano: I don't know. It's a great question because now with the digital age, you know, it's a certainly a sort of, I want to say like dying art or an art that certainly you don't see as much anymore.

>> Nidhi Khanna: At least not the dark room component of it. Although there is, um, a scene. Funny you should talk about dark rooms because I was watching a show that's all the rage right now. Stranger Things. Right. And so I remarked, or I found it really interesting that we saw a dark room on TV after a really long time. Like a person in a dark room. I had forgotten how, uh, dark rooms were really the how. Well, I mean, I had forgotten that that's the way essentially that photography or photographs were developed back in the day.

>> Marco Timpano: Sure.

>> Nidhi Khanna: In those dark, uh, rooms you'd have

>> Marco Timpano: to put it in three different sort of baths.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Yeah. And, and you'd watch it develop and you never knew what you were gonna get. Which is what was so fun about the photographs as well. There was something really, uh, I don't know, joyful about bringing your roll of film to the store to get developed and then having to wait a couple of days.

>> Marco Timpano: Right. And, and those stores don't exist anymore. You don't see them like, you know, there used to be blacks and suitors and a couple of others that were like well known places. You develop your photos, Marco.


Do you prefer black, uh, and white photography or color photography

>> Nidhi Khanna: So do you enjoy, uh, more black, uh, and white photography or color photography? Or do you have a preference when you're, when you're looking at photographs?

>> Marco Timpano: For any, I think artistically speaking, I prefer a black and white photo.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Okay.

>> Marco Timpano: Uh, if I was to hang a piece of art on the wall, it would be black and white.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Okay.

>> Marco Timpano: But um, for everyday photographs, or I mean color suits certain, certain moments and certain, like which Moments like if you're, you're at a beautiful beach and you want the color of the water versus the sand, or let's say you're in a city, I mean, certainly could have black and white photographs, I think. Photos of friends having fun.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Mhm.

>> Marco Timpano: The color sort of gives it a sort of vibrance. Vibrance. And it gives you. It sort of sets. Sets the, sets the moon. Yeah. The tone. And I think so many people are taking photos of food now.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Yeah. So are you food photo taker?

>> Marco Timpano: No, I'm not really. No. The reason I'm not is because I don't want my food to get cold. And I know that a lot of people are like, well, it only takes a minute. No, it doesn't. You set up the photo. You should have the food as it hits your table. So on a rare occasion I will take photos of food. Um, but generally speaking, I don't. I have a lot of friends and family who, they need to take photo food. What drives me crazy is when you're with a gathering of friends or family and the food has arrived and everyone's like, let's take a picture. And they want to take a picture of the whole table and it takes forever and it's like, no, let's eat and take the picture after. That's how I feel.

>> Nidhi Khanna: I agree with you. Because I also feel that it, uh, is a little bit disrespectful to the chef.

>> Marco Timpano: Sure.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Because they've created this beautiful food and you are supposed to eat it, you know, uh, especially if it's hot food, you know, eat it right away when it's hot and uh, ready to go. You know, most of the times, uh, or in particular restaurants, you know, they might be serving it at a particular time because of, you know, wanting the chemical reaction to be just right when you're consuming it.

>> Marco Timpano: Right.

>> Nidhi Khanna: And when you take all this time to then take photos, I sometimes wonder if there's a bunch of people in the kitchen going, they're ruining my food. Just eat it. I want to see what they, they like about it or what the reaction is.

>> Marco Timpano: I feel like photo can be taken after the food is consumed and you have all these sort of plates and you can see, oh, look, they had a huge meal or whatnot. Personally, that's fine. What about you? Black and white or color?

>> Nidhi Khanna: I agree with you. It really depends. I think that there is something very beautiful. Ah. And uh, alluring about a black and white photo. Like there's a different type of beauty that you can, can Capture, because I feel like with a black and white photo, there's a stillness that you might not find in a color photo. There's a very particular moment or emotion that you're capturing and it's heightened in a black and white photo.

>> Marco Timpano: You're not distracted by the surrounding colors,

>> Nidhi Khanna: so it tends to be a bit more emotional. But I agree with you. I think color photos, for particularly pictures and landscapes and friends and all of that, uh, really, uh, does capture the essence of what it's going for. Which is why I find sepia an interesting color palette or color filter tone hue that people start to use because there's a bit of that vintagey kind of old school component to it.


Eating disorders are serious mental illnesses that take a toll on your health

>> Marco Timpano: Well, it's interesting because we're recording the, this episode in your kitchen. And just above our microphone is actually a black and white photo framed of Anita Eckbert from the movie La Dolce Vita by Federico Fellini. Um, and it's black and white, except her dress has sort of been colored in red. And it's really quite striking.

>> Nidhi Khanna: It is. It's a beautiful photograph or a beautiful image really.

>> Marco Timpano: And, uh, she's in Rome and someone's serenading her, it looks like.

>> Nidhi Khanna: And that's why it looks like, you know, it's kind of like the best of both worlds. So when you look at that photograph, like the black and white component of it really does bring out the emotion of the moment or captures it very specifically. But then you have this very dramatic red. I don't know, what is it? Shawl, dress, whatever it is. Cloth, Sure.

>> Marco Timpano: I want to say shawl fabric.

>> Nidhi Khanna: I think it's a shawl, um, that really adds a sense of flair and drama that you would expect from a Fellini film, I guess. But, uh, yeah, it's kind of the best of both worlds. We all prefer things a certain way, like groceries. If you want groceries just how you like them, you gotta try Instacart.

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Some films are just fantastic in black and white. Others just don't appeal to me

>> Marco Timpano: Some films are just fantastic in black and white. You couldn't imagine them in color. Casablanca. Ah, um, Citizen Kane.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Now when people, though, try and recreate that. So I find. So for example, a film like Casablanca or, um, those old black and white movies, sure, they're you. They're in black and white because of the time, obviously, but that's what makes them so classic. So when people try and do black and white films now, there's something so inauthentic about it. Like it's. To me, it feels like they're trying to go back to a moment in time. But the problem is that the way we shoot movies now is so different. Right. So you're using different camera equipment. You're.

>> Marco Timpano: You most likely aren't even using film stock.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Exactly. So you don't get that graininess of the black and white that makes it so special and unique. And so I find it sometimes a little bit like, why is this in black and white? You know, like, why, why? What are you trying to do here? What are you trying to capture? So, um, it's interesting. That's my personal preference.

>> Marco Timpano: I do see the movie the Artist that won an Academy Award, but that's the one that comes to mind when I'd seen black and white.

>> Nidhi Khanna: That's true. Um, but, but see, for that movie, and you're right, I haven't seen it. Um, it's on my Netflix though. I'll find it. Um, like, I feel like something like that was actually Taking place because it, like the thematic fit, black and white. So sometimes I feel like, uh. And so it makes sense why it would be. But I have to see it in order to really comment on it.

>> Marco Timpano: We'll have to get that engaging conversation after you've seen the film.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Exactly.

>> Marco Timpano: Maybe I'll watch it too. Um, though it really doesn't appeal to me.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Other than silent films. Is it completely a silent.

>> Marco Timpano: I don't know. I don't know. I know it won an Academy Award, so it obviously has some artistic merit based on that alone. But, you know, film, um, just doesn't appeal to you. Appeal to you. There's nothing about it that one never really did anything.

>> Nidhi Khanna: You want to know my secret?

>> Marco Timpano: Sure.

>> Nidhi Khanna: You know which film was like that for me?

>> Marco Timpano: What's that?

>> Nidhi Khanna: Avatar.

>> Marco Timpano: Okay.

>> Nidhi Khanna: I couldn't. I couldn't. Everyone was like, avatar, Avatar, Avatar. Best movie, Best movie. I tried three times to watch Avatar, and each time I fell asleep because I. I was like, I can't take this.

>> Marco Timpano: What was it about it that made you fall asleep? Was it sort of the.

>> Nidhi Khanna: It was a little too slow? Maybe it was. I wasn't really into the premise. I don't know. There was something. It had all the things that I normally like. A little bit of, uh, you know, adventure, new worlds, a little bit of the sci fi component.

>> Marco Timpano: Sure.

>> Nidhi Khanna: But for some reason, I just couldn't get into it. I don't know why. Do you have any movies like that? Okay, so, um, how much time do we have?

>> Marco Timpano: No, uh, I know that Amanda will fall asleep if there's a lot of cgi.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Oh, okay.

>> Marco Timpano: And loud noises. If we're in a movie theater and it's loud and CGI for some reason, that'll put her to sleep. Um, I. I can get easily distracted if I don't like any of the characters. So if it's not character driven, or if it is character driven and the characters are, um, uninteresting or I can't, um. That's me hitting my glass. Yeah.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Yeah.

>> Marco Timpano: You've, uh, given me this beautiful crystal glass. And so crystal makes such a beautiful noise when you hit it. And that's me hitting it. But, um, yeah, if the characters don't appeal to me, I'll quickly get turned off and fall asleep. Or if the.


The film itself is very dark and takes place in a forest

The film itself is very dark and takes place in a forest. Like, I think it was, um.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Oh, like actually lighting dark.

>> Marco Timpano: Like, I think it was the Hobbit or one of these films like that, you know, Great film from a great book. Lots of Fans. But it became very, like, trolley things, walking in the forest. I know I'm gonna have a bunch of people who hate me for that, but.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Yeah.

>> Marco Timpano: Um. M. Yeah, but it was. It was a lot of that for me. And while I didn't fall asleep in the movie, it was just. I was on the verge. So for me, I don't know, I just need something compelling. And for me, those types of films aren't compelling. So it didn't compel me. That's not to say that the acting wasn't great or the characters weren't great. It was just a lot of dark in netherworlds.


Sometimes I get recommended films that people think are great and that I will love

>> Nidhi Khanna: So here's a question for you. What is a film that people are like, marco's gonna love this film. And you were like, I don't like this film.

>> Marco Timpano: Oh, that's a great question. I know that. Um.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Or is there a thematic in film that people think, oh, yeah, Marco's gonna. Must love. I don't know. Marco must love the Godfather movies because he's Italian.

>> Marco Timpano: Well, I do love the Godfather.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Everyone loves the Godfather. M. Um.

>> Marco Timpano: You know, sometimes I get recommended films that people think are great and that I will love. And I. Generally speaking, I do like the films that my friends recommend. I remember one time, Diddy. So there's these two films. I. I have a tendency to do this. I'll recommend Friends. The wrong film.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Oh, no.

>> Marco Timpano: So, for example, there was a film that Lisa Kudrow was in that was really good. And it was. It had, um, Christina Ricci, and I think it was called.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Oh, was that the High. The Romeo and Michelle one?

>> Marco Timpano: No, no, no. It was like, um. Yeah, it was sort of a sleeper hit. It wasn't. It didn't. It didn't make a lot of money, but it was a. I thought it was a great film. I think it was called Object of My Affection, but you'll look that up in a second. And then at the same time, there was a film with Jennifer Aniston in it, and it was one of these silly films. I want to say that the opposite of Sex. The opposite of sex is the one that Lisa is in. Okay? So opposite of Sex, Object of My Affection was the one that, uh. So just look up the premise on that. So what I was doing was I was telling people to watch Object of my Affection instead of object, and I would say it has the person from Friends in it. It's really good. So I wouldn't even say it has Lisa Kudrow. I just. I would just say this was years ago.

>> Marco Timpano: Right.

>> Marco Timpano: And I would say has the. It has the girl from Friends in it. It's really great. It's like this underground thing. It's a little bit gritty and whatnot. And I'll get, uh, Ninny to just read the synopsis of the wrong film that I was telling people to watch.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Well, I feel like I first need to read the synopsis of the right film. Okay, so, um, now how do we go back there?


Sam Sa recommends Object of My Affection to five friends

Okay, so this is the opposite of

>> Marco Timpano: Sex with Lisa Kudrow, which is the one I liked.

>> Nidhi Khanna: And Christina Ricci. After her stepfather dies, 16 year old Dee Dee moves in with her gay half brother Bill. Already pregnant, Dee Dee seduces Bill's partner Matt and convinces him the child is his. The couple steals $10,000 from Bill and runs off. But when an ex student of, um, Bill's, who's also Matt's ex lover, accuses Bill of molestation, he must track down Dee Dee and Matt with the help of Matt's sisters Lucia, to salvage his reputation.

>> Marco Timpano: There you go. So interesting. You know, there's a bit of intrigue there, some dark themes. It was really well acted. Christina Ricci gave a great performance in it, really enjoyed it. That's the film I wanted to recommend to people. I recommended Object of My Affection and so this is what my friends end up seeing after I explained to them that it was a gritty film that starred one of the cast members from Friends.

>> Nidhi Khanna: New York City social worker Nina Borowski invites her gay friend George to move into her apartment after he breaks up with his longtime lover Robert. Meanwhile, Nina gets pregnant and, and decides to keep the baby, but end her relationship with the child's father, boyfriend Vince. As Nina and George live and raise the baby together, the two grow close and Nina realizes she's beginning to fall in love with her friend.

>> Marco Timpano: There you go. So it was a romantic comedy and so, uh, my friends would watch that one.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Oddly enough, there's also kind of like similar theme and that was the first problem because you give them snobs and

>> Marco Timpano: they're like, you know, there's a gay friend and this, that, uh, and the other, and it has the, the girl from Friends and, and it's really gritty. It's really great. And they'd watch the, the Jennifer Aniston one and they'd be like, well, I didn't find it gritty at all. And I'd be like, what do you mean you didn't find it gritty? And they'd be like, well, I mean, she falls in love with her friend and they live in New York. And I'm like, what movie are you watching? Then they'd be like, the one with Jennifer Aniston. And I'd be like, why would you watch that? I told you. Lisa Kudrow, Christina Ricci. So I would convince them that they watched. Watched the wrong movie, even though I had told them. And because it's Opposite of Sex and Object of my Affection, you know, they both start with, oh, they were out around the same time. So nitty. I must have convinced five friends to watch the wrong film before I realized I had recommended the wrong one.

>> Nidhi Khanna: So basically, you. If there's ever a sequel to Opposite of Sex, we know that you're responsible for that because you're the one who's spiking those statistics in terms of rentals of that movie.

>> Marco Timpano: Object of my affection.

>> Nidhi Khanna: Object of my affection.

>> Marco Timpano: Sorry, this was. This was years ago. But that's an incident where I was the culprit of recommending the wrong film. Well, I won't recommend any films to our listeners. I don't want to make that mistake. But I will recommend a good night's sleep. A good night's sleep. Thank you so much for listening to this episode of the Insomnia Project.

>> Nidhi Khanna: As always, we are broadcasting from Toronto, Canada, and we are produced by drumcast Productions. Until the next time, we hope that you listen and sleep. Sam. Sa.