Newfoundland, the Double Double & Where Are My Scissors? | A Calm, Meandering Conversation

In this episode of The Insomnia Project, host Marco Timpano is joined by guest co-host Lois Tucker Keating for a gentle, meandering conversation that drifts from everyday curiosities to the welcoming culture of Newfoundland. This calming podcast episode unfolds at an easy pace as Marco and Lois talk about quilting, travel memories, and the warmth of Newfoundland’s people, music, and landscape. Their relaxing conversation also touches on the idea of a traditional Newfoundland “boil up,” and the meaning behind the beloved Canadian coffee order known as a double double. As always, the tone is soft and unhurried, creating the perfect background listening for anyone hoping to unwind, ease anxiety, or quiet racing thoughts before bed.
The discussion continues with reflections on the musical Come From Away, which celebrates Newfoundland’s remarkable hospitality during a difficult moment in history. Lois shares her experience learning the button accordion, an instrument deeply connected to Newfoundland’s folk traditions, while Marco imagines the luxury of a dedicated gift-wrapping room. From there, the conversation wanders into the curious mystery of missing scissors and the surprising usefulness of everyday tools like staple removers, drain snakes, and extension cord helpers. The gentle rhythm of the episode keeps the focus on small, ordinary moments, making it a soothing companion whether you’re settling in to fall asleep or simply looking for a calm and comforting listen.

​Newfoundland, the double double and where are my scissors?

(Original airdate: June 1, 2023)

 Welcome to the Insomnia Project. Sit back, relax and listen as we have a calm conversation or a calm conversation about the mundane. And it's meant for you to just listen, relax, think of nothing else, and let it take you where it will. Thank you for joining us. Hi, I'm your host, Marco Timpano. Amanda is still a little under the weather, so I'm very grateful to a dear friend of ours who has joined me this evening in the studio. Welcome, Lois Tucker Keating back to the Insomnia Project.

Lois Keating: Hey, thanks for having me.

Marco:  Lois, you were on an episode way back when about quilting and it's actually one of the fan favourite episodes that, that people actually find very relaxing. So thank you. I don't know if I ever told you that, but it's one of the ones people quote is the quilting episode.

Lois Keating: Oh, that's so awesome. I finished the quilt that I was working on at the time, so I don't know if we talked about that, but eventually I did, yeah.

Marco:  And was it an accomplishment? Were you happy or were you sad to see it end?

Lois Keating: No, I was really looking forward to it. It took seven years overall and uh, it's a queen size quilt and all the bits and pieces I learned along the way, uh, kind of all came together in the end, and it was really a, uh, great accomplishment. I'm so glad that I did it.

Marco:  You know, quilts often hold sentimental value and can be passed down through generations. Can you share a story about a quilt that you made that holds special meaning and memory to you?

Lois Keating: Sure. So the quilt that I made was a, um, memory quilt from my late husband's clothes that I made for my daughter, Briar. And so it was all different kinds of shirts and pants and, uh, swimsuits and Hawaiian shirts, All different fabrics cut up to different pieces into, like, a scrappy kind of pattern.

Marco:  Okay.

Lois Keating: Um, and then I also put our little family logo in there. I love it. And then with the free motion quilting part, I wrote some secret messages in there for her, too. So this will be a quilt for my daughter to have with all the memories of her dad.

Marco:  That's wonderful. That's wonderful. And I like that it's scrappy because Paul was scrappy, you know, It's a wonderful way to honor him.

Lois Keating: True, true. I never thought of that.

Marco:  Yeah, yeah. Uh, Lois. I'm very fortunate because Lois has made us some m. Quilted pieces that I cherish. Ones that we take out for Christmas are Christmas placemats. And we have Christmas, like mug mats.

Lois Keating: Mug rugs.

Marco:  Mug rugs, which I love. Just for the record. I just need to say that.

Lois Keating: Oh, that's so cool.

Marco:  And a practical quilt that you've done. Quilt quilting that you've done for us that is so helpful is you made luggage arm covers. I don't know how to describe that.

Lois Keating: Uh, I call those tag my bags. And so they're little. Yeah. Velcro pieces you put over your handle instead of tying ribbon or a bag to your luggage so you can find it. And they're also soft for when you have to carry it.

Marco:  And our luggage is black. And so when it comes off the carousel, so many luggage is black. And that beautiful quilted bright pattern you put stands out. I see it from a mile away, and I'm like, that's my black luggage. And it stands out from everyone else's. So I'm very grateful to you.

Lois Keating: Oh, you're welcome.

Marco:  One of the things I love about Lois, listeners, is that she's such a great host. Whenever we go to your home, you always provide a warmth and a very. A very caring, uh, way of, like, bringing us coffee or tea. But it's also very casual, so it never feels like, you know, you're doting on us, but you're very, like, what can I get you? I've got this new drink or whatnot, and I just want to thank you for that because I feel like I learned a lot from how you treat us when we're guests in your home. Um, what's your approach to that?

Lois Keating: Um, well, I'm from the east coast of Canada, so people stop by for a cup of tea or a cup of coffee or whatever, regularly. It's not, like, always a planned event, like, it might be amongst us or with, um, our friends here in the city. So, I don't know. I guess it's usually just a. It's a thing I'm used to doing all the time, just having. Even if somebody comes over or stops in, you just, you know, have a little cup of tea or coffee or something, and then, you know, it's such a pleasure to be able to have your friends in your home. And that's even more so now since, you know, the pandemic and everything.

Marco:  Sure, sure. Uh, Lois is from Newfoundland, and we'll talk about that in a minute. But listeners. So Lois came over to record the podcast, and I wanted to show her my backyard because, as you know, we've lit it with a lot of lights, and I wanted an honest opinion about how it looks. And. Because Lois and I share this sort of love of home caring and homemaking, and we often get into long conversations about, you know, what latest thing we purchased at Costco that works at the home, or, you know, cutting the grass and whatnot. And I love having conversations with Lois. So I said, lois, can you be honest and tell me what you think of the lights in our backyard? And you were. And I appreciate that.

Lois Keating: It's pretty good.

Marco:  Yeah. You like. You like them? It made me feel really good, actually.

Lois Keating: Like them.

Marco:  So we mentioned this. You're from Newfoundland originally. You now live in Ontario, and you're a dear friend of ours, in particular Amanda's. But I wanted to ask you, can you, uh, share a memorable experience or story that highlights the warmth and friendliness of Newfoundlanders like yourself?

Lois Keating: Um, there's a lot of stereotypical stories, I guess. M. One story that I remember from my childhood. So we lived outside the city, and, um, you know, maybe about 15, 20 minutes. And we're kind of on a country road, and it was a snowstorm, and, um, I was pretty young, maybe like eight or so. And, um, this gentleman knocked on the door, and it was at night and it was dark.

Marco:  Sure.

Lois Keating: And, uh, in the middle of a snowstorm. And, um, this guy in my memory was very Big. He had a lot of hair, big beard. Um, and, uh, he was stranded. His car broke down or something. And so I remember, um, I was, like, watching at the door, waiting to see what was gonna happen because it seemed like something out of a movie.

Marco:  It sounds like. Was it around Christmas? Cause it sounds like a Hallmark Christmas movie you're describing. And this is Santa.

Lois Keating: That's what I'm talking to. But so this guy came in and he ended up staying with us for a bit till the storm passed. And he could get his car dug, uh, out of the part of the road or the plow came. And, um, so he came in and we chatted, and I think we were making some dinner. And he helped, um, season it in a different way that we weren't used to. And it was kind of like one of those you hear stories about people welcoming people into their home all the time. But I hadn't really experienced that with strangers because we knew everybody around us. So that was pretty much one where, you know, this guy needed some help and he knocked on our door and we. He weathered the storm with us.

Marco:  Wow.

Lois Keating: Yeah.

Marco:  You know, there's a lot of sense of community when people talk about Newfoundlanders in Newfoundland. How do you think this has shape the identity of the province?

Lois Keating: Well, I think that Newfoundlanders have always been typically known to be a friendly population.

Marco:  Sure.

Lois Keating: Um, and so definitely tourism is really very popular because of that. And you can literally, I have so many friends who I recommend where to go at home and then they go and they have these little experiences in little towns where they go. And I always say, oh, ask for so and so, because, you know, we might be really, to them there. If you pop in and they're like, no, we're not going to say that. And it's like, of course you should. You might really run into people we know. Um, so definitely, like, tourism has really brought in a lot of people and the way things are going, I mean, this year's an incredible year for icebergs. But, uh, I think that's really been a big industry for us, for sure. But I think, um, the more people come, like, Newfoundland has such a good other side of things where, you know, there's so much high tech and so much, you know, industry happening as well, that, um, it's really diversified for such a small population place. Yeah.

Marco:  I'm so wanting to go. I've never been, and I'm so wanting to go. And if you haven't, um, had a chance to see the play come from away, that takes Place in Gander, Newfoundland. Um, that certainly shows a sense of community. Uh, but how do you feel about that particular uh, play? I loved it when I saw it.

Lois Keating: I loved it too. I've seen it several places and you know it is on in Gander this summer.

Marco:  That's right.

Lois Keating: And ah, so that's going to be a real special event this summer for it to be hosted and homed in Gander there. I mean there's so much history from 911 and all the things there that you can see at the town hall and all the different pieces of the Twin Towers, beams that are there and different things. Um, but yeah, it's gonna be really exciting for that to be there but I think it's lovely and I really enjoyed um, seeing it in Toronto. Um, and that it's really bringing a bit of the culture to the rest of the world and the music is fantastic.

Marco:  The music is wonderful and it really is lasting. And I'm not, I'm saying this Lois, I'm not someone who loves musicals. That's not my thing. Um, Amanda loves going to see musicals. Me, I'm a harder sell. And we took our Amanda's parents, my father in law and my mother in law and I sat with my father in law and Amanda sat in a different section with her mother and we all four of us had the most wonderful time even though we weren't next to each other and we were just having so much fun, you know. Newfoundland is also known for its stunning natural landscapes. What are some of your favorite places to explore and what are some outdoor activities that uh, you find engaging?

Lois Keating: Okay, so I will say that this time of year, if you were home in Newfoundland, definitely going to look at the icebergs is hot topic this time of year. Um, but if there's a lot of icebergs it's going to be really cold usually. So that makes the weather not as seasonable. Um, but my favorite place, um, I have a couple of favorite places.

Marco:  Oh, you can tell them all.

Lois Keating: So where we're from, our family's from St. Philip's and my aunt and uncle, um, my uncle lives there now and they call it out on the Point. And it's a little, you know, looking over the harbor and you can see the ocean and you can see Bell island in the distance and it's a really cute uh, view from St. Philip's beach down there. That's really nice because that's where we're from. And then um, my other favorite place and my daughter's absolute favorite place is called Trout river on the west coast of Newfoundland in Gros Morne. And that's where my grandmother's family was from. And we have lots of relatives still out there, and, uh, that has a really beautiful wide beach. Um, and, uh, they have a come home year sometimes where, like, they have a big festival in the summer and everybody comes home from away. Literally right home from away. And, um, they have a big celebration. And so a few years ago, we went to that and got to no more relatives. And it was just so lovely.

Marco:  Is this your mom's mom or your dad's mom?

Lois Keating: My mom's mom.

Marco:  Your mom's mom. Okay. I know Lois's parents, too, and they're really lovely. Um, now let me ask you this. How do you think the natural beauty of the province has impacted your connection to the environment?

Lois Keating: Huh? Good question. Yeah.

Marco:  Because you have a stunning backyard. You have a way. Now, I know something interesting about Lois is she's allergic to flowers.

Lois Keating: Yes.

Marco:  You're allergic to flowers. And so you have to really deal with nature in a different way than most people.

Lois Keating: Yeah. So my favorite thing about COVID uh, is that when I went to the garden center and I had my mask on, it was so much better. So now I just wear my mask all the time to the garden center when I'm picking out plants for the house or for the yard. Um, but my family, most people think of Newfoundland as all fisher people, but my dad's family were all fishermen, farmers. We still have farmers in that side of the family.

Marco:  Right.

Lois Keating: Uh, so you'd think I have a green thumb, and I don't think that. I don't. But it's not my love, it's not my passion, for sure. But I do enjoy sometimes I have a little garden, um, that we made over the last couple years. And so I have a few things I've planted there. But, um, how would I say? I definitely like having a bit of space and land. I do enjoy that. Um, for sure, I'd prefer if it was close to the ocean, but could have this kind of weather. If I could find a way to do that here, that would be really great.

Marco:  Um, it's been very warm here lately, so that's what Lois is referring to. But as you mentioned, in Newfoundland, especially this time of year, could be very cold, depending on how many icebergs are there. Right.

Lois Keating: Yeah. But no, uh, I definitely appreciate nature. Right. Um, we spent a lot of time in nature growing up and in the woods and going for a boil up where you take your kettle and you go into the woods and you make a fire and have, like, tea and beans or tea and hot dogs.

Marco:  I've never heard of this boil up. And now all I want to do is go on a boil up. This sounds amazing.

Lois Keating: Yeah, we'll get my brother to help take you on when we go home.

Marco:  I, um, love Lois's brother. I think I met him once, and he is one of my favorite people on social media. I just need to say that. I don't know if he's gonna listen to this episode, but I just need to say it to you because your brother's one of my favorite people. And when I do go to Newfoundland, I just want to hang out with him for a bit.

Lois Keating: Yeah, he's really, uh, he loves a good boil up. So they take their quad, or side by side, which is like an ATV all terrain vehicle, into the woods, and you have your stuff. You need to make a fire, and then you go and you have like, a lunch, and then you drive around and then you pack up and you come home. That's like a day on the weekend in Newfoundland.

Marco:  Sounds awesome. Yeah, I love that. I love just doing something spontaneous like that. Enjoying nature, but also the comforts of home. Like a nice, warm tea. I m. Love a good tea. Do you take your tea with milk and sugar?

Lois Keating: Just milk. I gave up Sugar in 2004 with Paul Lois.

Marco:  I didn't know that. I wish I could give up sugar. It's really difficult for me.

Lois Keating: I was a double double all the time in everything. Tea, coffee, anything. And then I went to cut, uh, back, switched, uh, to artificial sweetener, and it was horrible. So then I stopped, and so now I'm down to just milk or cream.

Marco:  Oh, that's great. For our international listeners, a double double is what Canadians refer to when we want two, um, teaspoons of sugar and two creamers in our coffee. Whether it be cream or milk. That's what we call a double double. And, uh, so in case you're like, well, what exactly is that? Uh, it's one of my favorite things now. All right, so we've talked about the community, we've talked about nature and the environment. Newfoundland, if our listeners don't already know this, has a rich musical tradition, including its own genres, like Newfoundland and Labrador folk music. Let me ask you how the local music scene has influenced your own musical tastes or style.

Lois Keating: Well, I definitely love traditional Newfoundland music, which is definitely based on a lot of Irish music.

Marco:  Sure.

Lois Keating: Um, you know, Newfoundland was primarily settled by the English and the French. And the Irish. Um, so definitely there's a lot of Irish kind of music and a lot of fiddle and accordion and um, the boron drum and those are, you know, traditional instruments. Um, for me, I definitely love all of that. I think it's great. I definitely follow a lot of our generation folk artists.

Marco:  Okay.

Lois Keating: Um, that's been, you know, people who are kind of keeping the traditions alive while also developing their own kind of more modern styles. I find that.

Marco:  Who would be an example of who you might recommend people to see?

Lois Keating: Maybe Ian Foster or a buddy of mine, Chris Pickle. He does some of that too. Um, there's quite a few and, uh, they are really, ah, great.

Marco:  Um, and you were saying sorry, before I cut you off. I apologize.

Lois Keating: Craig, um, Young is another one.

Marco:  Okay.

Lois Keating: Um, yeah, so there's just so many great artists and music. A lot of people play music in that I find here where we live, I don't have a lot of friends who, you know, play guitar or like, we're sitting around, bring out instruments.

Marco:  Sure.

Lois Keating: Um, but, uh, back home that's pretty popular. Um, and then I did learn to play the button accordion, uh, when I wrote a play back in 2005. So there was quite a few years before that, but I used it in the play. Um, so I have a little bit of that that I do sometimes.

Marco:  Was it tricky to learn how to play the button or accordion?

Lois Keating: Well, there's this. I'm not sure the name of the company, but you, um, could buy these books of how to play by number. So somebody had written a book series on how to play. So I learned that way. But then, um, because I read music a little bit, I was able to adapt it. But anybody who wants to learn, there's definitely some easy ways to learn how to play. It's pretty. It's pretty easy.

Marco:  Is it?

Lois Keating: Well, the button part on the right, but the in and out with the bellows, that's a little bit harder. Like to get the bass and all that in at the same time.

Marco:  It's an instrument. I remember as a kid, some of my contemporaries were forced to learn it by their folks. And I was grateful that I didn't have to learn it because it just seemed like a lot's going on with the accordion right now. I'm talking about the accordion, the traditional accordion, or I don't know what that

Lois Keating: one's called, with like the piano keys.

Marco:  The piano keys and the squeezing and ah, those other. It's the other buttons that I never understood. Like I could understand the piano but I couldn't understand what the other buttons do.

Lois Keating: Yeah, I think it's chords and stuff. Really. It's a bit beyond me. I'm still hoping to find someone who would teach this virtually over the Internet.

Marco:  Is there something you would like to learn to do that you have an interest in that you haven't already? Because you're very crafty, and you also have a very strong business side to you.

Lois Keating: I don't know nothing that I can think of off the top of my head at the moment. I'm gonna be thinking about that. I'm gonna wake up in the middle of the night, and you'll be like,

Marco:  I know what it is I've always wanted. Now this is something. This is a conversation I would have with Lois regardless of whether we were recording in a studio. So you're just gonna be privy to my conversation. So, Lois, one of my dreams is that I would have a room with just gift wrapping stuff, because I think it was Erin Spelling's wife. They had, obviously, a mansion, and she had a gift wrapping room. And I was like, how great would it be to have a room that has all your paper, all your ribbons, all your tape, all your tags, and you just go to that room to wrap any gift, no matter what the occasion? What are your thoughts on that?

Lois Keating: My God, Marco. Uh, I made a gift making, um. What would the word be? A thing. I sewed a thing that hangs on the door that holds all the stuff.

Marco:  Like, a thing where you would put, like, a. Oh, you did?

Lois Keating: Yeah. So, um, that would be an amazing room because I know you're very detailed with your gift wrapping. You would really, really do well at that. Paul was really good, too. I'm more like. I wrap things until people. Briar did.

Marco:  I see.

Lois Keating: Um. But yeah, so I made this, like, version. I'll have to show you the pictures of. It hangs off a bar that goes on your door and holds all your gift wrap and ribbons and cards and paper and all that stuff. That would be fascinating.

Marco:  I hate having to search for the tools that I need. The scissors get taken away, and they're in a drawer, or they're under the bed, or they end up. I don't know where. And then it's like, where's the ribbon? We had these tags. Where did those go? Even envelopes. Like, I have. I have a envelope and letter stamp. Little area in our office that I don't like Amanda to go near because I always like to know where my stamps are, where my. You know how you get those address Labels. I have all our address labels there. I have, like, all the things that I need when I put a letter together. And I want that same sort of thing for my gift wrapping.

Lois Keating: That would be great.

Marco:  It's a dream of mine. Yeah.

Lois Keating: Ah. Uh, I like to have that kind of stuff together. But what is it about the scissors that they go missing?

Marco:  I don't know.

Lois Keating: My mother used to complain and freak out if I took the scissors from the kitchen drawer all the time. And now I have become that person.

Marco:  I like to have scissors at an arm's length reach at any point of where I am. So we have our kitchen scissors in the kitchen, and that's where I like them to be. But I'm not going to point fingers. But Amanda, uh, will take them and use them for, you know, when she has to cut paper and stuff. And I'm like, these are kitchen scissors. Let's keep them in the kitchen. Then we have scissors to just open letters. So we have this, like, really long, long, um, pincer scissors that. That are rounded at the end for letter opening. I don't know where we got that or how we had it, but I love it because it's just four letters. Don't cut tape with it, because when you cut tape with it, the tape ends up on the scissors and then makes a bit of, uh, a glue.

Lois Keating: Sticky.

Marco:  Yeah, uh, glue. Or makes it thicker so it doesn't cut. Right. So I tell a minute, that's not for cutting cellophane tape with, but I have these other scissors for that. So I'm very particular. And I'm sure people listening are like, wow, he's very particular with his scissors, but that's me.

Lois Keating: So you know that sewing scissors, you can never cut paper with paint. Yeah.

Marco:  I had a pair of sewing scissors that I loved, and I used to use them for fine, detailed work. Amanda took them with her, thinking they were just scissors when she went traveling. And then I never saw them again. And they were very pricey scissors. And I don't even care that I spent, like, $22 on, because they're small scissors. Right. It's just I can't find those scissors. And they were precision scissors, and I loved them. Yeah, yeah, I'm. I'm very particular if once we open this door, you're gonna see I have a little. A little, um. It's almost like a planter box. Like a. Like something you put plants in a pot. And I've got two or three pairs of scissors in there. And I leave them there because I know Amanda doesn't even go near it. And I can always grab scissors from there.

Lois Keating: That's amazing. I feel like I've stashed scissors all over the place at my house now and then. Briar always takes the scissors. The ones I'm gonna look for, we

Marco:  have a Christmas, uh, cupboard. And our Christmas stuff has to fit in that one cupboard. And that's it. No more, no less. We don't dedicate any more space to Christmas stuff. It has to be in the cupboard. And I have Christmas scissors that stay in that cupboard that only come out for Christmas time for when you cut Christmas paper. Because otherwise we're searching the house for. And otherwise she's. I shouldn't just blame Amanda. We're using kitchen scissors to cut Christmas paper. And that. That drives me crazy.

Lois Keating: Yeah, there's a lot of good uses for scissors.

Marco:  What about your tools? Like, are you particular with your tools?

Lois Keating: Um, yes. Probably not as particular as some people's. So my sewing tools would be. They're definitely in my sewing room. And I have specific spots for my rotary cutter and my tools that I hang, I like to do that. My tools in my garage. Those are also pretty, um, organized.

Marco:  Yeah, they're organized.

Lois Keating: They were started by Paul. Um, but, um, I try. I have some things I want to do to that area to make it a little bit more user friendly and a little bit easier. But, uh, yeah, they're pretty, pretty organized. Everything's kind of labeled and in, like, kind of groups.

Marco:  That's wonderful. I've always admired how your tools are because you have certain things that I'm like, I need that. Like, you have that, you know, your extension cord wrapper. You have that thing that you wrap it in that kind of encloses in on cell phone.

Lois Keating: Oh, it's a cord buddy. I don't know who made those, but they're brilliant.

Marco:  Yeah. Uh, it's just. I saw it. I'm like, oh, of course Lois has that. And now, now I need that in my life. So that's one of the things I'm gonna actually tell Amanda because, you know when she's like, you're so hard to shop for. I'm like, I want a cord buddy. That's all I need. Get me that. And I'm happy. So I'm gonna mention that to her.

Lois Keating: Okay. That's a good one. That's a really useful tool.

Marco:  Yeah. I love it when you find a useful tool tool and you're, like, happy to share it with people who'll appreciate it. And it's like, do you have this? Because this is awesome.

Lois Keating: I got a new one this week.

Marco:  Tell me.

Lois Keating: So I do this thing where on the outdoor patio, I cover it with like a vinyl tablecloth and I staple gun it on. While every year I need to take it off and put on a new one. You have to take the staples out. Did you know there's a special tool for removing staples? Not just like the office staple one, but for like industrial, um, like upholstery staples or at the hardware store.

Marco:  Yeah. Does it look like a, um, duckbill?

Lois Keating: A little bit. Like it's got a triangle and then another piece on top.

Marco:  I'm thinking of something else. Okay.

Lois Keating: Put it in like a little. You push it under the staple and then you pull it up and it kind of captures the staple and pulls it out straight. It's amazing. I had no idea that even existed till I saw it the other day.

Marco:  One of my favorite tools that when you have it, when you need it and you have it, you're so grateful for having it, is a snake for the drain.

Lois Keating: Huh?

Marco:  I'm telling you. So you can get small little ones that are just kind of like. My mother in law got this for Christmas as a stocking stuffer for me. And it's just a wiry little piece of wire that's kind of covered with a plastic. And on the end it has almost like a Velcro, uh, end to it. And that's for, for faucet sinks. And you just kind of snake it in, snake it in, snake it in. And it'll pull out whatever's clogging it. Right. So many times that has saved me. But those ones will only last so long. So she got it for me a few Christmases ago. Let's say five to seven. They're no good anymore. But I did find a snake, an industrial snake for big jobs that I got on sale. And I'm very happy. I haven't used it yet, but when I need it, I know I have it. If you ever need a snake, you let me know.

Lois Keating: Okay, I will. One of the biggest adulting jobs, I would say that made me feel like I was a homeowner was when I first had to do the bathtub drain. That is disgusting.

Marco:  Yeah, it's kind of the worst, but once you do it, it's the best feeling. Once you see the water go down fast and quick, you're like, I'm glad I did it. Well, I'm glad you were here to represent, to be on the podcast to give Amanda a break. Thank you, Lois, so much. You always make our episodes so wonderful.

Lois Keating: You're welcome. Um, thanks for having me.

Marco:  And if you haven't been to Newfoundland, we're giving it a rousing place to visit and enjoy. Until next time. We hope you were able to listen to this episode and hopefully sleep.