The Interface Episode | Calm Bedtime Listening

In this episode of The Insomnia Project, a relaxing sleep podcast for insomnia, Marco and Amanda close out Season 5 with a calm and gently wandering conversation that drifts through technology frustrations, curious memories, and moments of gratitude. As always, the goal is simple: create a quiet space where listeners can unwind, relax, and perhaps fall asleep while following along with an unhurried discussion of everyday things.
The episode begins with Marco taking Amanda—and listeners—on a surprisingly deep dive into his recent journey with an audio interface. What might sound like a technical story quickly becomes the kind of meandering explanation that only Marco can deliver, with Amanda doing her best to stay awake in the studio as the tale unfolds.
Along the way the conversation wanders through a variety of cozy topics. Amanda recalls a memorable cabbage patch haircut, Marco can’t help but smile while describing the famous nude bike ride in Madison, Wisconsin, and the hosts take a moment to appreciate seasonal flowers blooming in November. There’s also a curious discussion about subway stops—the kind that make you wonder who exactly gets off at certain stations.
As the season wraps up, Marco also shares something he’s especially grateful for: the many messages from listeners who have found comfort in the podcast. Hearing that The Insomnia Project has helped people with insomnia, eased anxiety, or simply provided a gentle show to listen to at night has meant a great deal throughout the season.
While this episode marks the end of Season 5, the calm conversations won’t stop for long. Throughout December, The Insomnia Project will be bringing listeners a special series of daily holiday episodes, perfect for bedtime listening during the busy holiday season.
If you’re settling in for the night and looking for a softly spoken conversation to help quiet your mind, press play and join us for this relaxed season finale.
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​The Interface Episode
)original airdate: Nov 24, 2021)


 Welcome to the Insomnia project. Sit back, relax and just listen and let your insomnia just drift away. And if you have anxiety, let that drift away because we're going to talk to you for about 26 minutes about something very calm and relaxing. Thank you for joining us today.


Today is the last episode of season five. That's seven years we've been on the airwaves

Today is the last episode of season five. That's seven years we've been on, the airwaves as of January.

>> Amanda Barker: I didn't know I was here for the last episode of season five.

>> Marco Timpano: You are. You're an integral part of season five.

>> Amanda Barker: I had no one to told me. I wasn't informed. I did mention by the studio.

>> Marco Timpano: I did mention it a few weeks back and you were like, no, there's more weeks in January Remember?

>> Amanda Barker: Well, I might have said there's more weeks in November.

>> Marco Timpano: November, sorry.

>> Amanda Barker: Versus January. You're ahead of yourself, Marco.

>> Marco Timpano: I am. I am. This is Amanda Barker, by the way.

>> Amanda Barker: this is Marco Timpano.

>> Marco Timpano: That's right. And, we had a lot of people are. I don't know what it is for the season five, but I'm so grateful to all the people who have messaged me and told us how much they're enjoying the podcast, people who are listening because they've been anxious as of late, Amanda. And, thank you for all those messages.

>> Amanda Barker: It's really wonderful. And it's, nice to be of service, honestly.

>> Marco Timpano: It is. And it's nice to be here with you sharing the same. The same thing where we can't sleep sometimes. And we know where you are, Amanda.


We also realized that I have not been to Milwaukee, and I thought you had

before we go any further, I want to mention that one of our dear listeners, Devin, who is a Patreon on our Patreon page, messaged me. Devin said that they had not heard of jumping the shark until days prior to our episode where Devin asked their partner what jumping the shark was. And then our episode followed.

>> Amanda Barker: Right, right.

>> Marco Timpano: And Devin continued to tell us. Devin's from Madison, Wisconsin, that there is a Bronze Fonz in Milwaukee.

>> Amanda Barker: I've been to the Bronze Fonz.

>> Marco Timpano: Do you have a photo with the Bronze Fonz?

>> Amanda Barker: I know I have a photo.

>> Marco Timpano: Can we put that up with the Bronze Fonz on our Instagram? Because that would be awesome.

>> Amanda Barker: I have to go into a hard drive, but I definitely have it. Yeah.

>> Marco Timpano: What's the Bronze Fonz like?

>> Amanda Barker: And I should mention this, it's weird because he's bronze.

>> Marco Timpano: A bronze statue of the character, the Fonz, that was played by Henry Winkler in Happy Days.

>> Amanda Barker: Right. Because it all took place in Milwaukee. Right?

>> Marco Timpano: That's right. So did Laverne Shirley.

>> Amanda Barker: Yeah. It's funny because in those shows, I think of Milwaukee as a very big city, but having been to Milwaukee, I think of it more as a fun little place, but as a child, everything feels bigger, you know?

>> Marco Timpano: We also realized that I have not been to Milwaukee, and I thought you had. I thought I had, too.

>> Amanda Barker: You thought you had.

>> Marco Timpano: I thought I had.

>> Amanda Barker: I talked about it a lot because I've been there a couple times.

>> Marco Timpano: Can we go in the New Year?

>> Amanda Barker: Oh, you'd love Milwaukee.

>> Marco Timpano: Yeah, I want to go.

>> Amanda Barker: Yeah. lots of great food there.

>> Marco Timpano: Well, not only is Milwaukee sounding tremendous, but on Devin's back Bucket list is going to Montreal.

>> Amanda Barker: Oh, wow.

>> Marco Timpano: Because they really enjoyed our Montreal Episode.

>> Marco Timpano: And in Madison, Wisconsin, they have a yearly naked bicycle ride.

>> Amanda Barker: I. I'm all for it. I don't know if I'd want people filming me while I'm naked on my bike, but I'm definitely all. I think I would enjoy being naked on my bike.

>> Marco Timpano: It's a parade of nude riders.

>> Amanda Barker: Right.

>> Marco Timpano: Nicknamed Bear as you dare.

>> Marco Timpano: Riding around the city in the off. And Amanda Devin sent me a video of it and it's really.

>> Amanda Barker: Oh, I didn't realize that video was from Devin.

>> Marco Timpano: Yeah, it's really, really funny to see.

>> Amanda Barker: We enjoyed that video immensely.

>> Marco Timpano: Thank you.

>> Amanda Barker: There's a real play and freedom in it and. And also Wisconsin's really cold a lot of the time. So the fact that people are like, you know what? We're going to celebrate the warmth when we have it, I think it's great.

>> Marco Timpano: I had some dear friends from Wisconsin and they're just the best people.

>> Amanda Barker: Really?

>> Marco Timpano: Yeah.

>> Amanda Barker: I don't know. You had friends from Wisconsin.

>> Marco Timpano: Jay was from Wisconsin.

>> Amanda Barker: Oh, Jay was from Wisconsin.

>> Marco Timpano: From Tomahawk, Wisconsin. Yeah. A director of ours who came to our weddings. Really, really lovely gentleman, Jay Leggett. And I knew another person from Wisconsin who was just wonderful. That said, we are using new technology today, friends and listeners. So I had a bit of an incident where my interface, which is the electronic box that allows the XLR cable from these condenser mics to go from the XLR cable through the interface into the computer.

>> Amanda Barker: Keep talking about it and you will surely put me to sleep at least.

>> Marco Timpano: Well.

>> Amanda Barker: XLR interface CABLE INPUT output so the

>> Marco Timpano: interface, what it does is it allows the microphone, which is a better microphone than the USB microphone that we often use. When you hear the squeaky chair.

>> Marco Timpano: That's usually the USB mic and the studio mic is this XLR mic or this condenser mic that we're using. These two condenser mics that we're using. So the condenser mic goes through the XLR cable, which is far too big a cable to plug into a regular computer. The interface then allows me to modulate our microphones and the mixer and the main switch, headphones, etc. As they go into the computer through a USB follow.

>> Amanda Barker: So far, no, not at all.


My interface was not working the other day when you had. Something wasn't working

>> Marco Timpano: Okay, so my interface was not working the other day when you had.

>> Amanda Barker: What's an interface?

>> Marco Timpano: I just explained it. It's this box.

>> Amanda Barker: I was thinking about my sister and the subway schedule.

>> Marco Timpano: Okay, we'll talk about, that.

>> Amanda Barker: Honestly, that's what happened. My brain switched off. You Were talking, but I was thinking about my sister and the subway schedule.

>> Marco Timpano: We'll get to that in just a moment. So this interface, it's this box right here. Do you see it?

>> Amanda Barker: Yeah.

>> Marco Timpano: So you might remember we were going to.

>> Amanda Barker: Oh yeah, it's different.

>> Marco Timpano: Yeah. We were going to record your voiceover audition that you had.

>> Amanda Barker: Yes.

>> Marco Timpano: And we went to the cupboard.

>> Amanda Barker: High stakes drama.

>> Marco Timpano: the cupboard was bare. Something wasn't working. I thought it was perhaps the electrical plug. So what I plug the electrical. What do you call it? The actual outlet? Not the outlet, but the thing that I plug in the.

>> Amanda Barker: Yeah, I don't ever know that we. Because you tend to call. There's about five different electronics in this house that we call chargers. It could be a charging cord, it could be a wall charger, unit thing.

>> Marco Timpano: I think it's more of a wall charger.

>> Amanda Barker: But we were like, where's the charger? It could be one of those portable chargers that I use to power up my phone on the road.

>> Marco Timpano: No, this is what you plug into.

>> Amanda Barker: That's what I call a charger.

>> Marco Timpano: It's what you plug into the electrical outlet.

>> Amanda Barker: The thingy on the wall.

>> Marco Timpano: No, not the outlet.

>> Amanda Barker: The thingy that goes into the outlet on the wall.

>> Marco Timpano: That's it. So that was a little bit frayed. You know how it has a hard plastic nub and then it goes to the cord. Sure. Where the nub meets the cord was a bit frayed. So that particular interface, which is an audient 14.

>> Amanda Barker: Oh, wow.

>> Marco Timpano: It needs a power from both the computer and the outlet. And I thought it wasn't getting the power from the outlet or the juice to power the interface to allow the signal from the microphone to go into the computer.


I was having trouble connecting my microphones to an audio interface for podcasting

Thankfully, speaking of your sister, she has given me gifts certificates to the audio store that I purchased my equipment at for the pop. For podcasting.

>> Marco Timpano: Every year for Christmas she gives that to me and I use it towards the podcast. M and for the past three years I've used it to up the warranty on both the microphones we use and the interface.

>> Amanda Barker: Amazing.

>> Marco Timpano: So I brought the interface in, thinking they were just going to replace the cord that goes into the wall.

>> Marco Timpano: And when the gentleman tested it, he said to me, it's more than the cord. I think something's going on with the interface itself.

>> Amanda Barker: We Hm.

>> Marco Timpano: Need to look into it. And so the gentleman at that store is going to look into it because the warranty has been extended now. And I said to him, well, I'm a podcaster I need to podcast because we have listeners expecting this episode to air on Wednesday. And we were late last week because we were traveling, so I didn't want to do that again to our listeners. And he said, okay, well, your warranty also covers a rental, so I'll give you a new interface.

>> Marco Timpano: So he gave me this interface, which is the Audiobox USB 96. And he had asked me, do you want an audience like the one you had? Which he then said is finicky with regards to power.

>> Amanda Barker: Okay.

>> Marco Timpano: I said, I'd like to try a new one. So he's gonna give me the Scarlet, but I'm not. I have a Scarlett. I didn't. I wanted to try something new.

>> Amanda Barker: Right.

>> Marco Timpano: So he gave me the audiobox USB 96 okay to use. And I was having the most tremendous amount of trouble getting my Daw Daw or my digital audio workstation to connect with the interface. As you saw, I was, I was, I was spending a lot of time on that. Turns out it was the USB cable that was too long for this interface. This interface likes a short USB cable.

>> Amanda Barker: Oh.

>> Marco Timpano: And so the, the one they gave me was too long. The one that I had was too long. So I went into one that I had kind of in a box that I don't really use that was shorter.

>> Amanda Barker: Okay.

>> Marco Timpano: And it worked.

>> Amanda Barker: Oh, wow.

>> Marco Timpano: And so if the sound sounds a bit different today, it's because I'm using a new interface. And so it may react a little bit differently, not greatly with our microphones and our voice might sound a little bit different.

>> Amanda Barker: Okay.

>> Marco Timpano: And that is the journey of my interface.

>> Amanda Barker: I don't think, I'm. All of me is in this room.

>> Marco Timpano: fair enough.


Amanda was thinking about the subway schedule that you were thinking about

So, Amanda, you were talking about the subway schedule that you were thinking about and our subway.

>> Amanda Barker: Well, our subway's expanded a lot in the last couple of years. And, you know, I used to rely on the subway a lot and not as much now. So I was just thinking of some of the new stations that have evolved and been built on the subway in the last few years. That's where my brain was.

>> Marco Timpano: Sure enough, the subway now goes to my former university, which is York University, which is very north of the city, really, if you think about it.

>> Amanda Barker: Like, do you know anybody at Besserian Subway stop?

>> Marco Timpano: No, but that one always strikes me too. That's a weird one.

>> Amanda Barker: Like, you never hear of anyone. Like it's on the map, but you never hear of anyone going, oh, I just got a condo, right at Besarian. Like, it's not a word you ever hear, but on the subway map in Toronto, for some reason, it's there. This is wildly specific for.

>> Marco Timpano: For me, Glencairn is the one, I always think, who gets off at Glen Karen?

>> Amanda Barker: Glencairn. Yeah, but then there's other subway stops in Toronto that you hear about all the time, right? Like getting off at Spadina or the Zaveria subway stop or Dufferin Station.

>> Marco Timpano: When I lived in New York, Prince, I would get off at Prince station for work.

>> Amanda Barker: Oh. When I lived in Korea, I got off at Bupyeonggu, which was next to Pegun and between Pegun and Puge. They were all P's. But actually, what's funny is they're all bees now because they went with the other Alphabet. There were sort of two versions of whatever the Anglicized Korean Alphabet was, and I knew it all as peas. like Busan. But now it's Busan, right? Anyway, I mean, it's all the same in Korean.

>> Marco Timpano: But, I'm so glad you're using P's, because.

>> Amanda Barker: Yeah, that's your favorite.

>> Marco Timpano: You have a tendency to pop your P's.

>> Amanda Barker: Hey, I mean, if we're going to try this new interface, let's see how it does with P's and B's. That has nothing to do with the interface, does it?

>> Marco Timpano: Well, you. You.

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Amanda says she has a heavy foot because her mother told her

>> Marco Timpano: We just have a very prominent pee.

>> Amanda Barker: I don't know why my pee is so prominent.

>> Marco Timpano: I don't know. And you also have a heavy foot.

>> Amanda Barker: I do have a heavy foot.

>> Marco Timpano: The reason we know Amanda has a heavy foot.

>> Amanda Barker: Well, because my mother used to tell me I did.

>> Marco Timpano: Oh, did your mother tell you?

>> Amanda Barker: Oh my God.

>> Marco Timpano: Yeah, growing up.

>> Amanda Barker: Oh, yeah. Stomp, stomp, stomp.

>> Marco Timpano: Oh. Because I know you have a heavy foot. When you're walking above the studio, I can hear you.

>> Amanda Barker: But my friend and our friend Michelle, Miracle in la, said, you know, you're very heavy footed once to me, and I was like, oh, gosh. I guess she is very aware that I have heavy feet.

>> Marco Timpano: I think you just have a heavy foot.

>> Amanda Barker: I guess I do. I don't know. I thought maybe it was a dance thing. Like when I was a kid, I thought that's just something every mom says to every kid. But now I realize no, maybe it's specifically me. I don't have big feet.

>> Marco Timpano: No, you don't. Not at all.

>> Amanda Barker: Maybe that's why they're so heavy. Maybe I should be smaller for my feet. My feet are too small for my body.

>> Marco Timpano: Perhaps. Perhaps. When I was a child, I thought every parent, every mom cut their kids hair.

>> Amanda Barker: Oh, really?

>> Marco Timpano: Yeah, because my mom was a hairdresser, so she would cut my hair.

>> Amanda Barker: Right.

>> Marco Timpano: And, I just figured every mom cuts every child's hair. That's what they do.

>> Amanda Barker: Yeah. No, I probably wouldn't have ended up with a pixie cut if that was the case. Or I would have only had a pixie cut if that was the case.

>> Marco Timpano: I see. I see. Did you ever cut your own hair as a child?

>> Amanda Barker: No. I tried to shave.

>> Marco Timpano: Okay.

>> Amanda Barker: once. And another time I let my sister cut my hair and that was a disaster.

>> Marco Timpano: Oh, no.

>> Amanda Barker: I wanted to be a Cabbage Patch doll for Halloween.

>> Marco Timpano: Who doesn't?

>> Amanda Barker: And. And I decided this sometime early October. And so she said, okay, if you want to be a Cabbage Patch doll for Halloween, then we should probably cut your hair in ponytails so that it can look properly like a Cabbage Patch doll. And she was very convinced of it.

>> Marco Timpano: how old were you at this time?

>> Amanda Barker: We were older than you'd think.

>> Marco Timpano: Okay.

>> Amanda Barker: I want to say I was 7 or 8. So that would have put her at a solid 9 or 10, which really is, you know, that's something like a 4 year old does. We were old enough that you both

>> Marco Timpano: should have known better.

>> Amanda Barker: I guess I just always listened to whatever she said and she definitely should have known better. So she cut my hair in ponytails. And so of course it was all jagged and different lengths. And so then I had to go and get my hair properly cut. So then it became a bob.

>> Marco Timpano: I see.

>> Amanda Barker: I didn't mind the bob, but my mom didn't like it.

>> Marco Timpano: Fair enough.

>> Amanda Barker: Which is funny because she likes short hair.

>> Marco Timpano: But anyway, I want to say a special hello to all the flowers that are blooming in November, which for me, a November bloom is spectacular.

>> Amanda Barker: We have some geraniums that won't quit.

>> Marco Timpano: They're just like, it's the end of the season, I'm still gonna give you some blooms.

>> Amanda Barker: Yeah, they're hot pink geraniums. And I mean, it's December. Next week.

>> Marco Timpano: I know.

>> Amanda Barker: This week. Is it December this week? No, next week.

>> Marco Timpano: Next week.


As of December 1st, we're gonna have our holiday episodes

Speaking of December, So today's our last episode of season five. Thank you for being with us all this time. As of December 1st, we're gonna have our holiday episodes. And we're gonna have an episode for every day in December and a little pinch after in November too, till the 6th, which is epiphany.

>> Amanda Barker: January.

>> Marco Timpano: What did I say?

>> Amanda Barker: November.

>> Marco Timpano: Sorry.

>> Amanda Barker: And earlier when you were talking about November, you said January. I guess you get those two mixed up.

>> Marco Timpano: No, I think I'm just at the end of my day. I think it's just, it's just been a long day.

>> Marco Timpano: And so we're going to do a show for the 31 days of December. They're going to be holiday shows, so they're going to be not our regular episodes. They're going to be a little bit peppier. They're going to have a little more holiday feel to it. We'll talk more about that on the December 1 episode. But I just want to let everyone know I'm very excited about it. And Amanda, a preview for our listeners. We are going to be putting together a new podcast logo.

>> Amanda Barker: Oh.

>> Marco Timpano: So the one that you see of me and you in front of microphones with a sheep jumping over us is going to change to something else.

>> Amanda Barker: Oh my goodness.

>> Marco Timpano: So very excited.

>> Amanda Barker: Will it feature my chin as much?

>> Marco Timpano: It won't. Why? I think you look good in that picture. You're not happy with the chin?

>> Amanda Barker: No, it's just, you know, one never quite adjusts to one's profile, I think.

>> Marco Timpano: I guess profiles are a challenging thing.

>> Amanda Barker: They are, right?

>> Marco Timpano: Yeah. So we're going to have a new logo.

>> Marco Timpano: Sans either of our chins.

>> Amanda Barker: That means without.

>> Marco Timpano: That means without. And we hope you will like it. I'm really excited about it.

>> Amanda Barker: Good. That's very exciting. That's exciting news.


What does the end of November bring for you, Amanda?

>> Marco Timpano: What does the end of November bring for you, Amanda?

>> Amanda Barker: Oh, that's a really good question.

>> Marco Timpano: I'll say this. Your magazines for the end of November are pretty great. The five you got all the covers all look fantastic.

>> Amanda Barker: You're enjoying my magazines. Yeah, it's a lot of turkeys and, leaves and let's get into Christmas and let's get into the holidays. I think for me, November brings darkness. And in that darkness can be a lot of things. I think it can be a coziness.

>> Marco Timpano: Yes.

>> Amanda Barker: A want to look inward.

>> Marco Timpano: Sure.

>> Amanda Barker: A want to sleep more. I had a fabulous nap today.

>> Marco Timpano: Oh, you had. It feels like when you nap, I don't. And when I nap, you don't.

>> Amanda Barker: We have an energetic thing in this house with sleep in general. we should do a whole episode on that since it is a sleep podcast.


American Thanksgiving is coming up on Thursday

>> Marco Timpano: I want to also mention our listener Heidi, who, tweeted us at, listen and sleep. That's our Twitter handle, in case you're wondering. so Heidi mentions that. She mentions she loved hearing about the beautiful townships that we drove through on the latest episode. So the Eastern townships. And Heidi, if you get a chance, please, you and Devin take a trip. I know you don't know each other, but take a trip through Matchmaker.

>> Amanda Barker: Matchmaker.

>> Marco Timpano: No, I think they're both partnered. But still, they can still go.

>> Amanda Barker: I mean, friend, Matchmaker.

>> Marco Timpano: I don't mean romantically fair, but they can drive through Quebec. It's so, so beautiful. So beautiful.

>> Amanda Barker: Where is Heidi?

>> Marco Timpano: Heidi doesn't say where she's from. So Heidi, if you get a chance, let us know where you're from. But I want to say that she enjoyed the episode and it helped her get back to sleep when her head was stirring with her Thanksgiving menu plans. And American Thanksgiving is coming up on Thursday.

>> Amanda Barker: Right.

>> Marco Timpano: So I want to wish all our American listeners a happy Thanksgiving.

>> Amanda Barker: Would it be helpful if I went through what I did for Thanksgiving?

>> Marco Timpano: Yeah, of course. I don't think we talked about it.

>> Amanda Barker: I think we did the way I organized it all.

>> Marco Timpano: But I also want to say that I'm thankful for all our listeners and our American listeners who are celebrating Thanksgiving. I am thankful to have you here listening. And thank you, Heidi, for mentioning that. I. I sort of responded by saying I'm sure her Thanksgiving menu is going to be awesome, because I know you plan yours, and she was planning hers.

>> Amanda Barker: The key is timing. The key is having a timed schedule for me this year. It was, But you asked about November, and I just want to say I think there's some real magic to be found in the darkness of November. I think there's a real. Because it can be really challenging right when you lose the light and lose the sunlight. So I just wanted to say that I'm really trying this year to just invite the warmth and coziness that more hours of darkness can bring and, the inward introspection that more hours of darkness can bring.


The loud ad in the middle of our show episodes was a challenge for some listeners

I just really wanted to say that

>> Marco Timpano: I want to thank all our listeners who have stayed with us through the loud ad in the middle of our show episodes that I know was a challenge for a lot of people.

>> Amanda Barker: Yeah, that was, something that you only found out about after. Right.

>> Marco Timpano: You had to troubleshoot. It's a difficult one. Now, we do have two ads that will happen at the start of our show, and one of those ads I was Told by Nima was a bit loud.

>> Marco Timpano: But I figure if they're at the top of the show, once you start hearing me speak, you're going to chill and hopefully find your way to sleep. So I'm going to leave those ads

>> Amanda Barker: because I will say so. A podcast I'm listening to right now has some ads in it and it's the same ad every time. And I actually don't mind, personally. I like hearing the ads at the same time every time in the podcast, but I am a creature of, comfort and habit.

>> Marco Timpano: Mountain goat1.

>> Amanda Barker: Okay.

>> Marco Timpano: Had tweeted us and said that they usually love our podcast, but the Jumping the Shark episode was too much banter and too many interruptions. I think we went a little bit out of our norm of being calm.

>> Amanda Barker: I understand.

>> Marco Timpano: And you even called it out in the episode.

>> Amanda Barker: I did. Right. I said I think this is too conversational.

>> Marco Timpano: Yeah. So we're gonna make it a little

>> Amanda Barker: more what's good feedback.

>> Marco Timpano: Thank you. Mountain Goat 1.

>> Amanda Barker: I am thankful, for the feedback.

>> Marco Timpano: Yeah, I am thankful too.

>> Amanda Barker: Yeah. And there's different episodes for different people too. Right. That's why people flag like some people. The interface episode. I will never make it through this episode.

>> Marco Timpano: Well, we talked about the interface early in the episode, so hopefully at this point that helped people.

>> Marco Timpano: But I'm looking forward, I'm going to just end the episode talking about interfaces if I can.


Marco Tampano wants to know what you're planning for Christmas

>> Amanda Barker: Okay, great.

>> Marco Timpano: So Chris Bond has an interface that he spent quite a bit of money on, but it has all these features on it where he can program buttons to sort of allow for certain sound effects, certain dings and chimes. And his intro music is all pre planned on the interface. And I really want to look into that particular interface because I feel like it's kind of the Rolls Royce of interfaces.

>> Marco Timpano: And if I'm going, if my audience 14 doesn't work out, I might look at getting that Rolls Royce of interfaces. But I want to ask him more about it. And that's interface talk with Marco Tampano. Let m us know if you let us know what your plans are, if you're celebrating Thanksgiving or what your plans are or what you like about the end of November. Would love to know that. Or whatever else you'd like to share with us. Of course, we're always open to that as well. I recently had all my markers and highlighters out, Amanda, because I had some work I had to do. And you know, I highlight everything.

>> Amanda Barker: You do? You're very into color Coding. And this is a house where I always can count on having a highlighter.

>> Marco Timpano: A highlighter or cue cards. I have cue cards everywhere.

>> Amanda Barker: Highlighters especially though they're, they're, they're heavily prized and in every room.

>> Marco Timpano: It's true. I don't have a good green one right now.

>> Amanda Barker: Well, I know what to get you for Christmas.

>> Marco Timpano: There you go. A green highlighter goes. Because the one I have light green

>> Amanda Barker: or a dark green?

>> Marco Timpano: Well, no, not a dark one because the one I have is too dark when I highlight. It's just this. It's like using a, green marker.

>> Amanda Barker: Yeah, it's like you're almost. You can't read the thing. Some of the blues can be like that too.

>> Marco Timpano: The purples I find difficult.

>> Amanda Barker: Very dark. You need a light. Highlighters need to, by definition, be light.

>> Marco Timpano: There's pastely ones in different colors. I saw. A whole pack of them. But they were $17. So I was like, I'm not getting those. But I had my eye on them. Maybe Santa will get me pastel highlighters.

>> Amanda Barker: Yeah, maybe.


Thank you for listening to our Sleep podcast. Please tell your friends about our podcast

>> Marco Timpano: Well, listen, thank you so much for listening and I hope you've had an, ah, enjoyable season five. Thank you for, being with us. Please tell your friends about our podcast. they might enjoy it. I know I've had some people I recently spoke with and they've said, I didn't realize you had a podcast about sleep. And so they're now listeners. So thank you for listening to all of you and I wish all of you a good night and I hope you were able to, to listen and sleep.