You've Got Mail | Quiet Reflections and Listener Notes

You’ve Got Mail | Calm Mailbox Musings
In this gently meandering episode of The Insomnia Project, hosts Marco Timpano and Amanda Barker turn their attention to the quiet and nostalgic world of mail. From stamps and postcards to address labels and the small rituals of visiting the post office, the conversation explores the simple pleasure of sending and receiving something through the mail.
The hosts reflect on the charm of different post offices, the designs of stamps that catch their attention, and the small thrill of opening a letter or package that arrives unexpectedly. Along the way, they ask listeners to consider their own postal habits: What is your favourite post office? What kind of stamps do you find most interesting? And what kind of mail do you most enjoy receiving?
As always, the conversation moves slowly through everyday observations, allowing the ordinary details of life to become calming and comforting. The Insomnia Project is designed to provide gentle background listening that helps quiet racing thoughts and guide listeners toward sleep. If you drift off before the episode ends, we consider that the highest compliment.
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​Back from Oahu

(February 28, 2023) 

Marco:  Welcome to the Insomnia Project. Sit back, relax, lie back, chill if you will, and listen to this podcast and hopefully it'll help you, you know, bring you somewhere soft and cool and easy and hopefully even make you fall asleep. I'm your host, Marco Timpano.

Amanda:  I'm Amanda Barker. Or it could give you a, uh, soft and warm feeling.

Marco:  Sure, whichever you're.

Amanda:  Whatever after. Yeah.

Marco:  Amanda, we have not posted, uh, an episode for a bit because I felt under the weather and I didn't really have a voice.

Amanda:  Mhm. That's true.

Marco:  So we did not post. So you're gonna get two this week to make up for last week not having one. And thank you to our patrons who have been hearing a lot of content Actually, or even watching a lot of content because we've been really upping our Patreon. Patreon game. And, um, we just got back from a wonderful trip that we were on,

Amanda:  and we got back from podcamp. I didn't know if you want to talk about.

Marco:  Of course. Yeah. So we.

Amanda:  Lots to talk about.

Marco:  So much to talk about. Uh, we participated at podcamp and, and we were able to, uh, bestow some podcasting knowledge to potential podcasters. So thank you for being there and listening to our panel discussion and our session.

Amanda:  So podcamp is a. For those not in the podcasting, you know, world, um, even though you're listening, that. That might be the. The breadth of what you do with podcasting and. Or you may be a fellow podcaster. Podcamp is sort of a conference, uh, festival, more of a conference that happens usually, uh, this time of year in Toronto, but they haven't had it. So it was nice to, uh, to kind of get back into it.

Marco:  That's right. We were able to participate in front of a live audience, and we got some great responses. I want to thank everybody at podcamp, uh, for putting that on.

Amanda:  I did a panel. You did a session? A session, Yeah.

Marco:  I wasn't feeling well enough to do the panel, so Amanda said, don't worry, I'll hold the fort. And she certainly did.

Amanda:  I did my best.

Marco:  You did awesome. Speaking of awesome, we just got back from a wonderful trip. Amanda wanted to take me on a trip for a, you know, um, what do you call it? Like, an important birthday?

Amanda:  They call it something a milestone.

Marco:  Milestone birthday. And so Amanda's like, where do you want to go? And I'm like, I'd really like to go back to Hawaii. And so she.

Amanda:  To which I said, I don't know if that is going to be possible,

Marco:  because getting there is not. Not cheap, is it?

Amanda:  Not from Toronto.

Marco:  No.

Amanda:  However, nor is it short. But, um, our dear friends at YYZ Deals, uh, which is based out of Toronto. So, um, anyway, it's this guy who has a travel blog. He's had it for many, many years, and I've been a big fan. And we've certainly taken lots of trips that have come up. Sometimes their flight glitches, but more often their, um, you know, really just, oh, look, they're selling these for cheap for the next week or so. And it's. He's not sponsored by anyone. He's not selling anything. It's just a guy who loves to

Marco:  fly, and he just. He just shares that knowledge. And I should mention Though we follow it on yyzddeals.com because YYZ is our airport code. He also has versions for YUL.

Amanda:  Y. YVR.

Marco:  YVR. Um, Calgary's. I can't remember.

Amanda:  Yeah. So different ones across Canada.

Marco:  Halifax. So look, type in your airport code if you live in Canada and then deals.com and see what deals you might get. They're not a sponsor. It's not a sponsor of the show. We just happen to have used it a few times.

Amanda:  We used it last time we went to Hawaii. Very similar flights. Very, very inexpensive flights. And this time as well, um, it's for people who, you know, you may have your eye on a few places in the world, um, but you have some flexibility. It's not for people who need to book a trip a year in advance for their two week holiday in June or whatever. It's not for that. It's more like, wow, there's a deal on.

Marco:  Can we make it happen?

Amanda:  Do you think we can go?

Marco:  Yeah, I think we can make it happen.

Amanda:  Yeah, Whatever. So we booked these, I think in November. And, uh, we went to Hawaii before with them. We went to Italy long time ago.

Marco:  That's right.

Amanda:  On a crazy trip. That was crazy.

Marco:  Um, because it was supposed to be, you had to leave from New York to Milan and then anywhere else in Europe to anywhere else in the world. And it was like 300 bucks.

Amanda:  It was, it was great for both of us. Yeah.

Marco:  And so we had, we had points to get to New York, so everything.

Amanda:  So we went to New York, we flew to Milan, and then we, uh, didn't end up doing the next leg of the trip, which was to India, because I had a theater contract. But we did the Milan part and it was great.

Marco:  Yeah.

Amanda:  Five days in Italy. Can't beat it.

Marco:  And so we went to the island of Oahu.

Amanda:  We did.

Marco:  And then Amanda said we were speaking with friends who.

Amanda:  This past trip, I should say this past trip. Not while we were in Milan.

Marco:  No, no. This past trip that we just got back from, we went to the island of Oahu. And for me, Hawaii is a very special place. I just love it. There's something about those particular group of islands that really speak to me.

Amanda:  They're very magical.

Marco:  They're very magical. And we have good friends who also love Hawaii and actually introduced us to, to, to their love of Hawaii.

Amanda:  Yeah. They were going to go on a honeymoon to Thailand. Yeah. To Southeast Asia.

Marco:  But at that time there was something

Amanda:  going on with Thailand. I don't remember. So they decided not to, um, a Month or two before and instead rerouted and went to Hawaii and fell in love with it. And they've been back, I think, four or five times.

Marco:  So they.

Marco:  They made their love sort of trend. You know, we. We were curious and we wanted.

Amanda:  We get to hear about it from them. And, uh, so, uh, In, I think 2018, we went to the Big Island. So the four major islands of Hawaii, starting from left to right, are Kauai, Oahu, Maui, and the island of Hawaii known as the Big Island.

Marco:  Um, and there's Molokai and Lanai in there as well.

Amanda:  And also Nihue.

Marco:  Yeah.

Amanda:  But, um, which are smaller islands and that do have populations on them, but much smaller.

Marco:  Sure.

Amanda:  Um, so I know I was loud on that one.

Marco:  Sorry about that.

Amanda:  Uh, so in terms of places that we could go, um, those four are the. Were the ones that. They're the ones that have the. The airports and. Or the, you know, domestic.

Marco:  Lots of flights in and whatnot.

Amanda:  Lots, but depending on the airport. So, yeah. Um, a few years back, we went to the Big Island. It is the biggest of the four. We, the way we did that island, we had a week on that island. And we would sort of do three days in one location and then drive in a direction for an hour or so and then. Yeah, that kind of thing. Um, so we got these tickets to Oahu. And, uh, for those who don't know Hawaii as well, um, that's where Honolulu is, where the very famous Waikiki beach is.

Marco:  The North Shore, where the North Shore

Amanda:  is beautiful as well.

Marco:  A lot of surfing happens in that area.

Amanda:  One of, like, the great surf capitals of the world is the North Shore of Oahu, for sure. Um, and, um, just thinking what the other great surfing capitals must be. Cape Town, the Gold coast of Australia.

Marco:  California.

Amanda:  Yeah.

Marco:  California off the shores of Portugal, have really, really large waves.

Amanda:  Brazil as well.

Marco:  Brazil for sure.

Amanda:  Yeah. In any event, um, so, uh, we realized that we had booked just the way the flights worked out. I wanted to go for a decent. I wanted to go for at least a week.

Marco:  Right.

Amanda:  And so we booked Oahu, but it is a smaller island. And we kind of thought maybe we don't just stay on Oahu.

Marco:  Actually, it was Matt, our friend Matt, who said if you drive to the north part of the island, you can see the other island, Kauai.

Amanda:  You can see Kauai, which is the most. The leftest most island, um, on a map.

Marco:  Isn't Nihu, I guess.

Amanda:  Well, Nihu's sort of under it, but.

Marco:  Okay, okay, sorry.

Amanda:  But yeah, I guess is even more left. But anyway, um, and I said, well, if you can see Kauai, maybe we could go. And both he and Melissa said, that's a great idea. You have Almost, I think nine days or 10 days. Why don't you sort of split it up? So that's what we did. So we flew into Oahu, had a night in Oahu, and then got on a plane the next day and went to Kauai. It's a 20 minute flight.

Marco:  Um, it takes you much longer to get to the airport, stay in the airport than the actual flight itself to

Amanda:  wait for the plane. And actually more than once, the first time we did that flight, we got to the airport early enough that they just put us on an earlier plane. And then the second time we got on the wrong line because we thought, oh, this is our flight boarding and our ticket. They weren't very timely flights.

Marco:  Our tickets wouldn't scan. And that's how we figured out that we were trying to.

Amanda:  For the people in the line trying to go on the wrong flight. But, um, yeah, they sort of leave when they leave kind of thing. And, uh, although it was really lovely flying Hawaiian Air. So, yeah, we went to Kauai and we went to the north shore of Kauai, uh, in the town of Princeville and sort of the famous beach there is Hanalei Bay. And there's uh, lots of beaches up there. Gorgeous.

Marco:  The interesting thing about Kauai, or one of the things that I fell in love with with Kauai, they have a lot of chickens just roaming the island. All these chickens and roosters.

Amanda:  Yeah.

Marco:  And so in the morning there's multiple roosters crowing, cock a doodle doing. I don't know what you would call that crowing.

Amanda:  A rooster crow.

Marco:  Yeah, yeah. Crowed like from say 7 in the morning till 9:15, constant crowing of these roosters to get you up.

Amanda:  Yeah. Uh, they have taken over the island for sure.

Marco:  All because there was a hurricane, I think, in 1992 that disrupted a chicken coop or two.

Amanda:  Or several.

Marco:  Or several. And let loose these hens and roosters,

Amanda:  which is not the story I was told. I was told that explorers. I was actually told, and this is completely wrong, that Portuguese explorers, of which there are a lot, um, that did come through the islands in the 16, 17, 1800s, um, that they had decided they would leave a bunch of hens and roosters on Kauai so that they'd come back and they'd have dinner or whatever. That's not. I don't know who told Me that. That's not the story.

Marco:  I know that explorers, uh, left pigs in Florida.

Amanda:  Well, maybe I'm conflating two stories.

Marco:  I don't know. But I know I've heard them leaving pigs so that when they return, they'd have Spanish maybe.

Amanda:  I don't know, like Ponce de Leon and Magellan.

Marco:  This could also all be just, you know, stor stories that get passed down that are not 100 accurate.

Amanda:  Did you learn about the great explorers supposedly, when you were young? Um, Amerigo Vespucci, which I know.

Marco:  Amerigo.

Amanda:  Amerigo Vespucci. No, I didn't.

Marco:  Maybe I did, but I didn't really.

Amanda:  We all had to do projects on them in, like, grade four or five. And I did Ponce de Leon, the fountain of youth he was looking for.

Marco:  Wow.

Amanda:  Didn't work out.

Marco:  I'll tell you this. We saw, uh. Speaking of fountains, we saw several wonderful waterfalls.

Amanda:  Oh, my God. Beautiful.

Marco:  On our travels, including for anyone who can remember this, if you remember the television show Fantasy island from its first incarnation with, um, Ricardo Monteval. Thank you. And, uh, Hervey Villas and then other people who followed. When the opening sequence happens, you see a plane sort of flying, and you see these two waterfalls that are kind of in tandem. We went to go see those waterfalls.

Amanda:  We did. Yeah. They're beautiful.

Marco:  Yeah. We saw some wonderful waterfalls. Of course, the roosters. The water there was certainly a current, uh, when we were there.

Amanda:  Beautiful snorkeling in Kauai as well.

Marco:  Amanda's a good snorkeler. I'm not such a good snorkeler. What fish did you see this time?

Amanda:  I don't know fish names.

Marco:  Well, describe them to us.

Amanda:  Um, I think I saw tiger fish.

Marco:  Okay.

Amanda:  I saw lots of yellowy fish. Whatever Dory is. On Finding Dory. Finding Nemo.

Marco:  I saw her, but that's Dory's blue.

Amanda:  Okay. But I think I saw that. It looked like that with the eyes on the top and the sort of spout on the bottom.

Marco:  Yeah, I think. I think that fish is called a tang. Like the drink.

Amanda:  Yeah, like the drink. Um, I saw one fish that was really neat. It was, like, almost like a black and white, um, zebrafish. Oh, well, almost, but it was, like, speckled, like little stones of white. Uh, I also saw a very big, um. Looked almost like what I would think an orange roughy would look like. Like, very kind of gruff and, um. But it was gray. Okay.

Marco:  A gray roughy.

Amanda:  Maybe a gray roughy.

Marco:  It'd be strange if you saw an orange roughy in Hawaiian waters. Because orange ruffy is an Australian fish.

Amanda:  Is it really? I didn't know that. I thought it was a Chilean fish.

Marco:  That's Chilean sea bass.

Amanda:  I get them mixed up because they're both overfished, right? Yeah, yeah.

Marco:  Otherwise known as a tooth fish.

Amanda:  Um, I saw one, a lot of ones that had, like, teeth. Things that, like, almost like shrimp. Like little things that, like, clean out the water. Like, clean out, like that scavenger for. For clams or things like that.

Marco:  Are you talking about, like, whiskers on the bottom of their chin?

Amanda:  But the whiskers, like, do the work. Do you know what that means? Do you know that?

Marco:  I. I know what you're describing, but that's not what those whiskers do.

Amanda:  But.

Marco:  Oh, well, I don't know what they don't. I don't think they're whiskers. Scavenge for fish, but I could be wrong.

Amanda:  Lots of great fish.

Marco:  Yeah. I saw a school of. Of fish. A school of gray fish.

Amanda:  Yeah.

Marco:  And I saw some sea urchin, and I saw urchin. Urchins. Urchins, Yes. I saw a couple of sea urchins. Uh, and, uh. Yeah. And then we saw some turtles.

Amanda:  We saw some turtles.

Marco:  We saw some beautiful turtles.

Amanda:  Yeah. And monk seals.

Marco:  We did see some monk seals on.

Amanda:  Monk seals on Kauai. Turtles on Oahu.

Marco:  I thought Amanda had seen the monk seal because we were looking for a spot on the beach. And what they do when these animals come to shore is oftentimes they'll put, like, a barrier, just. Just some. Some rope around them to give the monk seal and the turtles their space. And so no one sort of trips over them or disturbs them while they're basking on the beach and resting. We had put our blankets down and, you know, found our spot. And then a few minutes later, Amanda turns to me and says, oh, my goodness, there's. There's this giant thing on the beach. And I said, yeah, that's the monk seal. We walked by and it had a huge sign that said, don't disturb the monk seal.

Amanda:  Uh, I didn't see it.

Marco:  She didn't see it. And when she saw it, she was really surprised.

Amanda:  It's a really quite taken aback when you're lying on a beach and then a gigantic seal is next to you, it's off putting.

Marco:  Sure, sure. And we saw three turtles. Do you remember their names?

Amanda:  Um, I only remember the one name. The other ones were Hawaiian names, so I don't remember them.

Marco:  Which name stood out for you, Olivia?

Amanda:  Dawn.

Marco:  Which is they named these turtles this.

Amanda:  I can look. I might have photos of this.

Marco:  Amanda might have photos. But, um, here, I'll look. What they do is they cord off their green turtles. And what they do is they cord them off and then they put little names and how old they are and how often they come to that particular beach, which was known as Turtle Beach. And we really drove quite a bit to go to Turtle beach and it certainly rewarded us with a few turtles that were just hanging out. And, uh, you can adopt another name.

Amanda:  Was JP.

Marco:  JP, how old was JP? 23. Right.

Amanda:  JP was 22 to 27 years old.

Marco:  And what does it say about JP?

Amanda:  JP's Hawaiian name is Miya Nui. JP first appeared at Ah, Lanakia in March of 2015. Since then, Mia Nui has become one of our most frequent visitors to the beach. Um, J.P. was the first new turtle to begin regularly basking here at Lanakia. I guess that's where we were after three new turtles joined the ohana, which means family, in 2010. Take note of JP's tail growing longer. It says the only obvious distinction between a male and a female, the turtle's nickname, J.P. was bestowed in honor of Malama and Honu's father, Joanne Pettigrew.

Marco:  Okay, so it's great. Um, hanu means turtle in Hawaiian as well. And, and so they named them and they allow you to sort of adopt a turtle. So, you know, you sponsor the turtle for conservation and preservations and for these people to be there. There's always someone on the beach ensuring that no one disturbs the turtles and so.

Amanda:  Have more hot turtle news.

Marco:  I would love more hot turtle news.

Amanda:  Okay. We also met Punahele. Um, Hawaiian name Punahele, which means the favorite one. Punahele was a faint quarter size crescent shaped indentation. Has a faint quarter size crescent shaped indentation on the second right lateral scoot. She is another of our Honu turtle that can be found basking here year round. During 2019, she appeared on the beach more than any other turtle. In 2020, Punahele undertook the 1000 mile round trip migration to the French Frigate Shoals to nest. She left Lanakai on April 13, 2020. Took a meandering route. See, they have them all tracked. And um, and then she built a nest, it looks like. And then she came back August 18, 2020.

Marco:  There you go.

Amanda:  That's how she spent her summer of 2020.

Marco:  So before Amanda gets to the third turtle, the one that we remember most, a friend of mine just celebrated his milestone birthday and I wanted to get him something. And so, you know, it's hard because most of us have everything that we could possibly need, um, and want. And so what do you get someone who has that and you want to celebrate. So I'm going to sponsor our next

Amanda:  turtle whose Hawaiian name is Ipoh, but

Marco:  her English name is Olivia Dawn.

Amanda:  Yeah, we'll find out why.

Marco:  And the reason I want to sponsor Olivia dawn is she's just a little bit younger than my friend.

Amanda:  She's the eldest and so he's still older than her. So Ipoh, which was her Hawaiian name, means sweetheart. She's 47 years old. She weighs 230 pounds. In 2004, Ipoh made the 1000 mile round trip migration to the French Frigate Shoals to nest. We'll have to look up these shoals. It took her 35 days to get to the shoals. Data gathered from the time depth recorder attached to her shell revealed that Olivia dawn made a noteworthy deep dive of 443ft, which is 135 meters.

Marco:  That's nothing to snark at.

Amanda:  No, I mean I wouldn't snark at Olivia Dawn, a 47 year old turtle. It was almost 11 years until she returned to nest again. She was the 101 of over 850 turtles recorded as nesting at the shoals in 2015. Ippo lives in our cove year round. Whether she hauls out in the morning or afternoon, she can still be seen on the beach at sunset 86% of the time. I don't know who did that math.

Marco:  But so, so Olivia Dawn. Olivia dawn likes that beach, which is nicknamed Turtle Beach.

Amanda:  Mhm, mhm.

Marco:  And so if you, I think it's called. Yeah. If you are wanting to sponsor a Hawaiian turtle. Do we have the website?

Amanda:  Sorry, Lanakia Beach.

Marco:  Lanakia Beach.

Amanda:  Yeah. Yeah, I've said it wrong. Um, Yep. Let me just look.

Marco:  Amanda will look. But so, um, they were giving us a lot of information and they gave us some, uh, some bookmarks and they said if you want to sponsor one of the turtles, you can, um, I'll

Amanda:  say it, but it's gonna, it's gonna take some doing and I can, I

Marco:  can put the website.

Amanda:  So just know that if you're drifting off. Don't worry, we will post this elsewhere.

Marco:  It'll be in our show notes, but

Amanda:  it's Malamanahanu.org okay, so M M A L A M M A N A H O N U dot O R G and honu.

Marco:  Honu is one of the few Hawaiian words that, that we know. I have committed to memory.

Amanda:  Yeah. Which means turtle.

Marco:  Which means turtle.

Amanda:  What other Hawaiian words did you have?

Marco:  You know, I know man is kane. I don't know if I'm pronouncing it correctly.

Amanda:  Uh, you know, woman is wakine. And I had a dream that I was singing it over and over.

Marco:  Oh, that's. That's pretty.

Amanda:  Two days ago. Yeah, I actually got up. This happened to me again last night, but I didn't record it. But often I get up and I'll just record because there's songs playing in my dream and I'll just sing them into my phone.

Marco:  That's wonderful.

Amanda:  I don't do anything with them, but. Well, as long as there's songs I've never heard before and so I sing them into my phone.

Marco:  I didn't know you were such a mistress. No.

Amanda:  Yeah, it happens. Lately, M. It's been happening a lot. But, um, yeah, sometimes I woke up

Marco:  the other night and I had some scenes in a movie in my. So I. I went downstairs and I wrote them. Um, Amanda and I. This is something that Amanda has done that I. I followed suit on. And I really love is when we get letters in the mail, bills, um, or whatnot. We keep the envelopes as scrap paper and they're perfect size to jot things down. And so I wrote the scenes on, um, these empty envelopes.

Amanda:  That's why my envelopes were downstairs. Now, there's one thing I want to say. If you're drifting off and you have thoughts that come into your head, I don't want people to get caught up thinking they have to go and write them down. There's a great author who's the guy that wrote that book with Dolly Parton

Marco:  crime author James Jameson.

Amanda:  James Patterson said, I will not anymore, no matter what the idea is. Get up from my bed and write it down. And often when you do that and you think, okay, I'm gonna, uh, write down this dream or whatever, it's not as great as you think it is in the moment. You read it after I wrote a whole stand up routine once I came downstairs and wrote it all down. I had dreamt it. I never read it again, but I don't think it was particularly funny.

Marco:  Well, there you go. I also want to mention that we're using new mics today.

Amanda:  Microphones.

Marco:  Microphones. Microphones. Yeah. So I used, um, the monies that we've raised from our patrons to purchase these microphones, and hopefully it'll take care some of the sound issues of Popping Peas and Other things that.

Amanda:  Oh, really? Is that the idea?

Marco:  Well, yeah.

Amanda:  You. You move your feet a lot, mister.

Marco:  Do I.

Amanda:  Do you realize how much you move your feet when you talk? All I hear is. It's like oceans. All I hear is that sound, and I always think, oh, the mic's going to pick it up. But I guess it doesn't.

Marco:  I'm, uh, mimicking Hanukkah.

Amanda:  Yeah, you are, honey. What are other. I wanted to say, speaking of hanu, what are other. So hanu. Wakine. Wakine or wahine?

Marco:  Wahine, I think, is woman.

Amanda:  Yeah. Uh, so what else do we know?

Marco:  Ukulele. Ukulele is ukulele as we know it.

Amanda:  Melakiliki maka is Merry Christmas. It's not.

Marco:  It's not.

Amanda:  It's just them taking the Hawaiian Alphabet and saying Merry Christmas, which I never knew until recently.

Marco:  And, um, speaking of the Christmas episodes or the holiday episodes, I'm going to take them down so I have them for next year in case our listeners are like. Because sometimes I'll take them. They're like, we don't have the holiday episodes anymore. Well, I saved them for December, so they'll be coming down very soon.

Amanda:  So, um, what other words do you know in Hawaiian?

Marco:  Oh, Amanda, you're, like, putting me on the spot. I'm, um, trying to think of other words. So, uh, I know. What was falls. Falls. I think I knew falls in Hawaiian.

Amanda:  Oh, I don't know.

Marco:  Take a second. You know the. The pork. The Kahlua pork.

Amanda:  Okay. It's.

Marco:  It's the style of, uh. Um. It's not made with Kahlua, the alcohol.

Amanda:  Right.

Marco:  It's what they call that particular pork.

Amanda:  We learned that Waikiki means, uh, bubbling water springs.

Marco:  Yes. Waile, I think, is falls. Yeah, I'm. And I. And I'm.

Amanda:  Walea was the name of the fall. The fantasy Island Falls, I think.

Marco:  Yeah. So these are some words that we have.

Amanda:  You see that a lot. Or waimea. You see a lot in Hawaii.

Marco:  I did appreciate that they did have Hawaiian words alongside English words. Um, for you to sort of learn

Amanda:  a word we heard a lot was ono.

Marco:  Ono for something that's really tasty or delicious.

Amanda:  Yeah, very ono. And in fact, watching the news in Hawaii, they do use these words in the news in the morning shows. They'll, you know, they're speaking in English, but then they'll. They'll bring in the Hawaiian words whenever they can. Shaka, which is that hang loose, kind of keep it easy.

Marco:  Mahalo is the one word that I used every day, which is thank you. Mahalo.

Amanda:  So there, yeah, you know, a few words.

Marco:  And I think that brings us to the ultimate Hawaiian word for, uh, our listeners, because we're. We're right to the end, Amanda. And that's aloha.

Amanda:  And aloha means hello, goodbye, and also love.

Marco:  And there you go.

Amanda:  And thank you to our ohana, which can mean family, but also community gathering of friends or anybody that gives you that familial or family feeling.

Marco:  I want to thank, uh, everyone we encountered in Hawaii. Everyone was so lovely. And to you, our insomnia family, uh, for joining us today. We will have an episode up tomorrow to make up for the episode you didn't get last week. Until then, we hope you were able to listen and sleep.

Amanda:  Mahalo.