Hung Up and Ironed Out — Ironing Tips | A Gentle Nighttime Wind-Down

In Hung Up and Ironed Out — Ironing Tips, Marco and Amanda settle into a softly spoken exploration of one of life’s most ordinary rituals: ironing. What might seem purely practical becomes surprisingly soothing as they walk through heat settings, fabric types, and the quiet satisfaction of smoothing out stubborn wrinkles. From debating the merits of starch to laughing over the pronunciation of “hanger,” their gentle banter keeps the tone light and companionable.
They share small, methodical tips — matching heat to fabric, working in order, using steam wisely, and even lining the ironing board with foil for efficiency — all delivered at an unhurried pace. There’s something calming about the steady rhythm of long, smooth strokes and the simple act of caring for clothes.
As always, this calming podcast is designed to help you fall asleep, ease anxiety, or quiet racing thoughts. The conversation is relaxed and intentionally low-stakes, making it perfect for background listening at bedtime or during a middle-of-the-night wake-up. Let the familiar hum of domestic routine and easy humour guide you gently toward rest.

​Hung up and Ironed out -- Ironing tips
(Original airdate: July 17, 2024)


Welcome to the Insomnia Project. I'm Amanda Barker and I'm smelling your hand

Welcome to the Insomnia Project. Sit back, relax and listen as we have a calm conversation that's meant to help you find your way to sleep in whatever shape or form that becomes. Thank you for listening. I'm your host, Marco Timpano.

Amanda:  I'm Amanda Barker and I'm smelling my hand.

Marco:  Why are you smelling your hand?

Amanda:  I don't usually use the hand soap down Here. And it has quite a particular smell.

Marco:  Good or bad?

Amanda:  good in small doses.

Marco:  I see. Okay. Well, I hope it's in a small dose. What flavor is it?

Amanda:  It's the flavor of gardenia.

Marco:  Oh, okay.

Amanda:  Yummy, yummy.

Marco:  Gardenia can be strong scented.

Amanda:  It can be. Yeah. This is a soap.

Marco:  I remember one of my friends wanted it as her prom corsage.

Amanda:  they were really big in the 90s.

Marco:  Were they?

Amanda:  Yeah.

Marco:  I didn't realize that.

Amanda:  Yeah, they were.

Marco:  It's not my favorite scent of flowers, that's for sure.

Amanda:  What does a gardenia look like?

Marco:  It's kind of like a white, mini peonies almost. Look it up if you want. And it kind of has a flouncy look to it.

Amanda:  Oh, flouncy. Unlike those stern flowers that everybody's into.

Marco:  Well, there are some stern, sturdy flowers.

Amanda:  What would you call a stern flower?

Marco:  well, a sturdy flower I would say is a. Is a, Anthurium would be sturdy. It could hold up to a little bit of joseline. Stern. A stern flower would be like, something prickly or that has sharp edges, like, bird of paradise.

Amanda:  So colorful though.

Marco:  Okay, so stern for you is something that's like one color and one color only.

Amanda:  Yeah. Bird of paradise could be both. I mean, you can be colorful and stern. I've known people that have been both very colorful and very stern. So.

Marco:  Yeah, I'm trying to think of a flower that's not delicate, that can take a little bit of,

Amanda:  I'm with you.

Marco:  Chrysanthemum, maybe?

Amanda:  Sure. Also an interesting scent.

Marco:  Yeah.

Amanda:  We had soap. That scent.

Marco:  Really?

Amanda:  We did, yeah. Remember? My sister loved it. And then we had about half a thing left. I took it up to the cottage.

Marco:  I see. Okay.

Amanda:  So that's the history. Do you know the other flowers in our other bathrooms? You know the other. It sounds like we have so many bathrooms, it's just so not the case.

Marco:  But I don't. I know that the kitchen has soap that smells like them. That smells like orange.

Amanda:  Yeah. So that one is called daisy. So that's supposed to be the smell of daisies.

Marco:  Okay. But the actual soap that we use for dishes smells like orange.

Amanda:  Oh, yeah. Okay. But that's not hand soap.

Marco:  Daisies don't have a smell.

Amanda:  Smell it. And you might think otherwise because you're really like, oh, that does smell like a daisy.

Marco:  Okay.

Amanda:  Hm. Fresh as a daisy.

Marco:  I guess.

Amanda:  And then we have rose in the second floor bathroom. Rose.

Marco:  You have to be light. Light touch with rose and gardenia and gardenia for sure. Yeah.

Amanda:  Light touch. They're friends. Yeah, the light touch.


Flowers. I love lilac, but only when it's the real deal

Flowers. And then upstairs, I'm trying to remember. Is it lavender?

Marco:  No, it's not lavender.

Amanda:  Oh, no, no. I don't remember.

Marco:  I can't. I feel like it's a, winter green or some sort of like.

Amanda:  Like a eucalyptus or something.

Marco:  Something like that.

Amanda:  I think it's a flower also. What did your mouth just do?

Marco:  What do you mean?

Amanda:  Did you not hear that?

Marco:  No. I'll have to listen.

Amanda:  You'll hear it when you listen back.

Marco:  Okay. Well, there you go.

Amanda:  Sounds like Donald Duck.

Marco:  Is there a flower that you do do like the scent of that? You're like, this is the flower that

Amanda:  I. I love a lilac, but only when it's the real deal.

Marco:  I see.

Amanda:  And I love an orange blossom, too, so I'll go with those.

Marco:  When it's a real deal or also when it's not.

Amanda:  Mostly when it's the real deal. But it's hard to find the real deal with orange blossoms. Now, sure, orange groves ain't what they used to be.

Marco:  That is the truth.

Amanda:  At least near my parents. They used to have tons, but they've been,

Marco:  They've called back.

Amanda:  Called back. There were blights and things. And now they're gonna be, I think, condos. So.

Marco:  Okay, there you go. I'm sure there's orange groves. You just have to find them.

Amanda:  Yeah, just not near my parents.

Marco:  Yeah, fair enough.


Men are at a disadvantage when it comes to ironing, according to experts

Okay, so I wanted to talk to you about tips, on ironing.

Amanda:  Well, that's going to be all you, because I don't. That's my tip.

Marco:  Don't iron.

Amanda:  Don't.

Marco:  Okay. Or buy fabrics that don't work well,

Amanda:  buy some rayon and call it a day. That's my hot tip on ironing. I don't iron. There's a few things I own that would maybe require it. And what I do is I'll take them to a hotel where it just seems easier to iron, and I might iron them there, if at all. And usually I end up getting rid of them because I'm like, ugh, I don't want that shirt. I have to iron it.

Marco:  I, on the other hand, iron.

Amanda:  I don't think men have a choice.

Marco:  Yeah, it's true.

Amanda:  And I think we just need to say that you're at a disadvantage when it comes to ironing. Women can. And I know this to be true because I am one. And I wear suits, I wear button down shirts, but I do as much as I want natural fibers. I Gotta be honest, I buy non natural fibers. I just m. Try to buy them all secondhand and I try to wear them until I can't wear them anymore.

Marco:  I have to go to the cleaners tomorrow to pick up my suits because I have them dry cleaned.

Amanda:  That's right. Oh, I ordered belts, by the way.

Marco:  Okay, that's good to know. What kind of belts?

Amanda:  Stretchy ones. I need stretchy belts.

Marco:  Thick belts or thin belts?

Amanda:  Thick.


Do you remember when eel skin was really popular

Marco:  Do you remember when eel skin was really popular?

Amanda:  Oh, my gosh, no.

Marco:  You don't remember Eelskin? Yeah. Eel skin wallets, eel skin belts.

Amanda:  What year was that?

Marco:  In the, in the eel years? In the Ely years. the 80s, 80s, 90s. Eel skin was like all the rage where I grew up. Eel. Like the little, snake like creature.

Amanda:  The eel.

Marco:  Like the eel. E E L Eel.

Amanda:  Was it a byproduct of people? Because I don't remember eating eel ever. And then next thing you know, it's like every sushi place is giving you some eel.

Marco:  Eel is great.

Amanda:  Well, it's over farmed, I think, actually.

Marco:  Well, it depends on the eel that you get.

Amanda:  I see. I don't know enough about that, but I definitely don't remember that time of the late 80s, early 90s where eel skin was all the rage. I missed that fact.

Marco:  I had an eel skin wallet. It was fantastic.

Amanda:  why don't they make them anymore? Why don't I see these things?

Marco:  Because eels are over farmed, I guess. I don't know why, but it went out of fashion.

Amanda:  I mean, it'd be great for all the sushi eels if we were making wallets out of the skin. It just feels like it's getting going in a weird place.


Different fabrics need different heat settings, Amanda. Check the level on your garment

Marco:  All right, let me go to the ironing board.

Amanda:  Please, please go and, I'll just lay back and listen.

Marco:  Great. So some of the tips I've received online I agree with, and some not as much. So heated up. Right. Is one of them controversy. Different fabrics need different heat settings, Amanda. I don't know if you know that. So with your nylon or fake fabrics, you want to heat low because you'll melt them. Because you'll melt them.

Amanda:  But here's the thing. I want to heat.

Marco:  No. Okay.

Amanda:  Because I'm not going to iron them. I.

Marco:  We. We understand, but linens and things, you have to turn up the heat.

Amanda:  All right?

Marco:  And you've got to be careful because if you turn up the heat on the iron and you. You're not aware, you could actually, you could actually burn your clothes. So just Be careful with that. Check the level on your garment, Amanda, to avoid, scorching or melting your shirts or whatever you're ironing.

Amanda:  I just gave Marco a sip of my coffee, which hopefully won't keep him up all night, but that's what I brought into the booth just because I feel like his mouth is a little bit on the noisy side.

Marco:  A little dry tonight.

Amanda:  You got some eels in your mouth.


You need starch to iron Marco's shirts

Marco:  Okay, work in. Order iron clothes in a specific order to save time and avoid re. Wrinkling. A common approach is to start with starched items. I love starching the collars of my shirt.

Amanda:  Amanda, what year is it? You starch your shirts?

Marco:  The collar? Of course I do.

Amanda:  We've been married 14 years. I didn't know this. Where do you keep the starch?

Marco:  I have it on our shelf by the, washing machine.

Amanda:  No one has so many things. I'm always like, why is there so many things on the shelf? It's like, what does one need? A stain remover? A Basta?

Marco:  No, no. You need starch. Remember I was so excited when we found starch on sale?

Amanda:  Oh, yeah.

Marco:  At the superstore. I bought three, so I'm really happy.

Amanda:  Exciting day in our marriage, folks.

Marco:  Well, I'm telling you, I was looking for starch, and starch is not inexpensive, so I was happy.

Amanda:  I would argue it's not easy to find because there's not legions of people that are like, starched shirt night. Like, I think people don't do that anymore. I feel like it's, like, from Mad Men.

Marco:  No. People starch their shirt. People with class starch their shirt.

Amanda:  Now, here's a question. Could you. If you're like, ah, I'm out of starch. Got a starch shortage in my house. Could you take starch from other sources, I.e. pasta, water,

Marco:  and what, like, drink it and then spray it on your. On your shirt?

Amanda:  I think you skip the drinking, and you just put it in the bottle and spray it. That would have starch, wouldn't it?

Marco:  Well, I mean, I. I don't know. I think.

Amanda:  Isn't that what starch is?

Marco:  I think it would leave a residue.

Amanda:  I mean, probably.

Marco:  Okay, so this isn't about. Let's find things to use to starch Marco's shirts. I have beautiful starch that I spray on my collar and I iron. Okay, here's another tip. Master your moves. Use long, smooth strokes with the iron. Glide it across the fabric. Amanda, avoid pressing down too hard or making choppy movements which can wrinkle or stretch the garment.

Amanda:  Well, that's me. Every time I do it, it's, chop a thon.

Marco:  Amanda doesn't hang her suits after she takes it off, and it drives me a little bit crazy.

Amanda:  Oh, my God. You're throwing me under the bus. For all of our listeners. I do, also. I do as much as you do. No, I hang my suits all over my stuff. You hang them?

Marco:  No, I brought my suits to be dry cleaned, so that's why I didn't hang them this last time. Okay.

Amanda:  Sometimes I go into the spare room and it's a suit. A thon. With your suits not being hung on the bed and other places.

Marco:  I think you're mistaken.

Amanda:  Sometimes you're like, you know where I want to hang this suit? On this door knob. I think I'm going to leave it here for months.

Marco:  Perfect place on the hanger. I do that with the hanger.

Amanda:  Oh, say hanger again.

Marco:  Hanger.

Amanda:  No. Is that how you say it?

Marco:  Hanger.

Amanda:  Like it rhymes with anger?

Marco:  Hanger.

Amanda:  Hanger, hanger.

Marco:  Like I'm a hanger.

Amanda:  I'm feeling a little hanger tonight.

Marco:  No, I hang my suit on a hanger. What do you say?

Amanda:  Hanger. I don't say the G. It's

Marco:  not a silent g. Hanger, hanger, hanger. No, I put my suit on the hangar. Don't laugh into the microphone. I put the suit on the hanger.

Amanda:  This isn't real.

Marco:  Okay. What kind of steak? If you get a hanger steak, what do you say?


You say a word very differently than me. What do you say? Hanger

Amanda:  I don't. I say hanger. Put it in the put. The airplane goes into the hangar. I don't say into the hangar. Are you kidding me?

Marco:  No. The airplane goes into the hangar.

Amanda:  Oh, my gosh. I've never heard you say this.

Marco:  Pass me the metal hanger. No, that's what I say.

Amanda:  I'm really not. 14 years we've been married. 16 probably. I think we've been together. That's a long time for me to not know that. You say a word very differently than me.

Marco:  What do you say? Hanger. Hanger. What do you say?

Amanda:  I don't pronounce the G. All G. Like it's a soft G. Like lasagna.

Marco:  No, it's not ng. It's g. Oh, I guess it is ng.

Amanda:  It is ng.

Marco:  Okay, It's N G. But it's not an Italian word.

Amanda:  I don't say lasagna.

Marco:  Yeah, because that's an Italian word.

Amanda:  Okay.

Marco:  Hanger is an Italian word.

Amanda:  Hanger is hang. Do you say you hang?

Marco:  I hang. I hang. My clothes.

Amanda:  No, you don't pronounce the G when you hang your clothes.

Marco:  Let's play hangman. What do you say?

Amanda:  Hangman. No, I don't. No.

Marco:  What do you say?

Amanda:  Hangman.

Marco:  Hangman.

Amanda:  Wait, say it again.

Marco:  Let's play hangman.

Amanda:  Say it again. Say it slow.

Marco:  Let's play hangman.

Amanda:  Well, I didn't hear it there.

Marco:  Well, okay, listen, wait, just say, like,

Amanda:  hey, babe, I gotta hang my clothes.

Marco:  Hey, Amanda, I'm going to hang my clothes and hang your clothes.

Amanda:  That doesn't have the G. It has

Marco:  the G. It has the G. For

Amanda:  real, you say hanger?

Marco:  Hanger. Yeah, I think. I'm pretty sure I do. You'll have to catch me off guard because now I'm hyper focused on it. Okay, this isn't a bit about.

Amanda:  Oh, it's not a bit. This is real.

Marco:  This is.

Amanda:  This is real life, folks. This is our. If I had a YouTube camera channel. And I'm like, look at my marriage, everybody. And we have all these followers, and I'm like, look what my husband does. There's people that do that and they make millions.

Marco:  Well, okay, I don't think we would.

Amanda:  It's not us, but our life would be so boring.


I have a friend who swears by washing all her clothes inside out

Marco:  Can I go back to my tips?

Amanda:  Sure. Or your tip.

Marco:  All right, all right.

Amanda:  Do it.

Marco:  Okay.

Amanda:  Don't put your hands on your hips, on your hip. Don't hang your head in despair.

Marco:  How do you say drawer?

Amanda:  Okay, that's not fair.

Marco:  It's not. Okay. All right. I won't get Amanda to say it because she. She doesn't know how to say it.

Amanda:  Drawer.

Marco:  She comes from a land where they don't know how to say drawer. Okay. Befriend the inside out. Amanda. this is something I don't do, but I should do. Iron. Clothes inside out can protect buttons, your buttons in particular. When I iron your clothes can be a little bit tricky.

Amanda:  I have a friend, her name is Viviana Zurillo. Very talented theater, actress, and she. Oh, and she's also in the next step, so I guess she does more than theater. Anyway, she swears she's very frugal. She's taught me a few lovely frugal tips. And she swears by washing all of your clothes inside out. She doesn't put anything in the. In the washing machine that isn't inside out.

Marco:  She's right.

Amanda:  Is she?

Marco:  Yeah. a lot of your clothes I. I put inside out.

Amanda:  What? Really?

Marco:  Yeah. In particular, black clothes that I want the clothes to remain black.

Amanda:  Oh, wow.

Marco:  Or some of your Fancier clothes. I'll pull them inside out. And jeans, too. It's good to have them inside out.

Amanda:  Really?

Marco:  Yeah. It keeps them blue longer.

Amanda:  Oh, wow. Okay.

Marco:  I do that often. I'm surprised.

Amanda:  Here I thought it was this magical tip that shows you how much laundry I do.

Marco:  Exactly.

Amanda:  Keep going.

Marco:  Okay, so, as soon as you finish ironing an item, hang, it up immediately to prevent wrinkles from setting in.

Amanda:  I heard the G there.

Marco:  If hanging isn't an option, neatly fold the garment while it's still warm, which I try to do.

Amanda:  Okay.

Marco:  I love folding garments when they're still warm. Sometimes I'll throw a warm towel on Amanda, who's lying down while I'm folding clothes.

Amanda:  That's what I do. That's what I bring to the. To the laundry.


You go through different phases with your folding

I have a question about. I'm trying to remember my question. You. And this is not meant as a dig. It's meant as a curious exploratory question, truly. But it's gonna sound like a dick. You go through different phases with your folding. Can you talk a little bit about that? Because I'm often curious about that.

Marco:  I don't know what you say about phases.

Amanda:  Phases you went through when you went through your spark, joy. what's her name?

Marco:  Maria Kondo. Yes.

Amanda:  Marie.

Marco:  Marie Kondo.

Amanda:  Maria Kondo. It's the Italian version. when you, went through that phase, you were very specific with me on how I had to fold everything. We had to fold it like her, which is a very specific way of folding.

Marco:  You're not a good folder at all.

Amanda:  Okay. This was meant to be a curious, exploratory conversation, but you went for the jugular. I do my best. Okay. I'm not gonna tell you I'm, expert, but I do my best. Anyway, you institute in this house, and you were very strict about it that we do her style of folding. And I do.

Marco:  Yeah, for the most part, I do her fold. Her style.

Amanda:  When you bring your laundry up and stuff and you folded it, none of it is folded like that anym. You did do that for a while. You even made a YouTube video about it. And then with Matt, whenever. That video is who. You and Matt Campagna did, a YouTube video about how to fold your clothes like Marie Kondo.

Marco:  I think we did. Yeah.

Amanda:  The fact that you guys did that is something that we could also explore.

Marco:  The shirts are hard to fold her way.

Amanda:  Okay.

Marco:  And. And I don't fold pants because I hang pants, so I don't even.

Amanda:  Jeans.

Marco:  Yeah, I hang jeans.

Amanda:  Okay. Well, I don't.

Marco:  I have a drawer, full of jeans. No, I hang my jeans and jeans. When you pull them out of the dryer, if they're a little bit damp, you can hang them and they'll dry straight, which is really nice. But what don't I fold like Marie Kondo?

Amanda:  Well, jeans, underwear, which I could care less.

Marco:  The crotch is weird when you fold pants her way.

Amanda:  Well, I do it because you made me do it. This happens sometimes. You institute a rule.

Marco:  It's true.

Amanda:  And then you bet you bail on the rule. And I'm years later, here I am a decade later, I'm still doing it.

Marco:  But aren't you richer for folding your jeans that way?

Amanda:  I don't think so.

Marco:  How would you fold them if you weren't folding normal way, which is not

Amanda:  folding the crotch up and then folding

Marco:  the sides in, which is what?

Amanda:  Just the way the good old American folding.

Marco:  Roll it up in a ball. Like, roll it up like a sausage.

Amanda:  I don't do a ton of rolling when I pack. I roll. But in drawers that we've established. I can't say drawers, drawers. the reason I can't say it. I think we've talked about this on the show before, but if you're new to my mouth. I'm from Massachusetts. I grew up saying, draw, put it in the draw. So in the draw. So sometimes I still say draw.

Marco:  And what's funny is Amanda will tell you to draw a picture.

Amanda:  It's not true. so, yes, I do get hung up on that. I get hung up on that word. But in any event, I forget where we're going this. And I guess nowhere good. But, I just. I noticed that you instituted folding, and I'm still doing it. And you've done something else, and I'm doing folding the way I learned in my house.

Marco:  Good.


I like to fold underwear. If I had time, I would iron our underwear

Well, we can continue to do that.

Amanda:  Okay. Also, I did grow up in a house where you didn't. You never folded underwear.

Marco:  Oh, really?

Amanda:  None of us folded underwear. Oh, my parents. My mom would never fold underwear. She would say, what a waste of time.

Marco:  No, I like to fold underwear.

Amanda:  Shove it in the drawer just like that.

Marco:  Just like. Like a box of tissue. You pull it out.

Amanda:  Yeah, yeah. No, I also. And this is not.

Marco:  If I had. If I had time, I would iron our underwear.

Amanda:  Oh, my God. Really? Yeah.

Marco:  It's so great to put on a freshly ironed pair of underwear.

Amanda:  Yes.

Marco:  Wonderful.

Amanda:  Well, when we're rich with our YouTube channel of our boring life called this Boring Life, this boring Canadian life. then we can hire somebody to fold our underwear or to iron and fold our underwear.

Marco:  I wish I had time to iron sheets.

Amanda:  That's fair.

Marco:  It takes so long. Iron sheets are so wonderful. And I don't. I've done it. I've done it a few times. When we have guests, I usually iron the sheets.

Marco:  And I really love ironed sheets. And so it's just a lot of work.

Marco:  And if, if, if I could, maybe I'll start ironing sheets. I'll put a program on an iron sheets.

Amanda:  I mean, do it for you. Don't do it for me.

Marco:  Of course I do it for me.


Never iron dirty clothes, Amanda says. Your dirt and stains can leave permanent marks

Amanda:  Okay, next tip.

Marco:  Never iron dirty clothes. Amanda. this is something that I have to say.

Amanda:  Always iron people do that. Why would you be like, it's filthy but it's pressed.

Marco:  Cuz here's the thing. I could see you. Oh, I have an audition. I've got to iron this shirt. This is the shirt I need to wear. Then all of a sudden, you iron. Your dirt and stains can actually like leave permanent marks if you iron it.

Amanda:  In this hypothetical world, I have a shirt that needs ironing because I own an iron bull shirt, which I don't really. I do own one right now.

Marco:  You have one, the blue and white stripe? Yep.

Amanda:  And those two Hawaiian ones, I know them well.

Marco:  I do iron some of your nice shirts when we're. One where we're, when we're working.

Amanda:  But I prefer to spray them and hang them and hope for the best.

Marco:  Oh, really?

Amanda:  Yeah. I don't, I don't want them iron.

Marco:  I usually iron them because I'm ironing mine.

Amanda:  I know, but they're synthetic. I'm afraid, I'm always afraid you're gonna get them melted.

Marco:  I did melt one once by accident.

Amanda:  Which one?

Marco:  The white one.

Amanda:  What? Really?

Marco:  Yeah, on the back of the collar. You don't really see it, but yeah.

Amanda:  Oh. Yeah. Leave them alone.

Marco:  I won't touch your shirts.

Amanda:  Great. Next tip. Don't touch my shirts.

Marco:  Well, this is a weird one.

Amanda:  Okay,

Marco:  foil for faster ironing. For an ironing hack, try lining your ironing board with aluminum foil, shiny side up under the pad. The foil reflects the heat back up through the garment, essentially ironing both sides at once, speeding up the process.

Amanda:  That's insane. It's not a Panino fair.

Marco:  I would not do that.

Amanda:  I wouldn't do it. It's not a grilled cheese. I, I think that's crazy. You do that and you. Then you're It's.

Marco:  I don't think it's crazy. There's going to be some people who, who listen, who do that and they find it very rewarding. You just don't like ironing. There's a, there's a Zenness to ironing that I don't think you've ever attuned with.

Amanda:  I've had an ironing bias sometimes when

Marco:  I iron and if I have the television on or if I'm doing something, listening to a program, let's say it can be very relaxing.

Amanda:  I'll take your word for it.

Marco:  Another thing that you can do, which I don't do for really stubborn, stubborn wrinkles, use a damp pressing cloth between the iron and the garment.

Amanda:  What do you do? Or do you just.

Marco:  The moisture helps the heat penetrate the fabric more effectively, releasing those deep creases. Now I use the, I use the two knobs that are often found on irons. The spray. Spritzes from the top or the steam spritz it from the middle.

Amanda:  I'm always worried with those. I'm always afraid there's some old water or something funky and then you spray it and then boom. You wrecked a shirt.

Marco:  Well, yes, that's happened in hotels where the waters have been calcified. That's why I try to, I try to release the steam before I even put it on. On any garment that we have.

Marco:  So that's, that's a tip that I would say. So those are the tips I have, Amanda.

Amanda:  You might say they're hot tip.

Marco:  You could say they're hot tips. Sure. Or you could say they're ironed tips. Iron clad tips, if you will. So those are, those are, those are my ironing tips. Also. I don't like to iron on an ironing board that doesn't have a thick fabric to it.

Amanda:  Okay.

Marco:  Sometimes you go to hotels and it's like an ironing board has like a metal frame and then they have a very thin sort of cloth to it.

Amanda:  Yeah.

Marco:  And that. I hate that. I hate the feel of it. It doesn't iron the clothes. Right. Sometimes what I'll do in hotels is I'll put a towel underneath it just to give me a little bit more,

Amanda:  cushion for the cushion.

Marco:  Yeah, for sure. So that's, that's what I use.


Don't buy clothes that need ironing. That's not necessarily a practical tip for women. And I know clothes are not gendered always,

And ours has a, has a very thick pad and it works great.

Amanda:  Great.

Marco:  Now I've had iron steamers before. You don't like them because they take up too much room

Amanda:  if we used it daily. And you're like, I don't need an ironing board. I have the steamer. I'd be fine with it. But if it's a big, clunky thing that never really gets used and involves a lot of cleaning and setup and tear down and it's huge, then no, I'm not a fan. But I mean, I would be forward if you're like, wow, this thing's amazing. And we use it for everything.

Marco:  They have ones that are. Are that you. That are like, a almost like a squeegee that you would use in the shower. And they're detachable. That's one I would like. Not that. No, it wasn't quite that. It had a cord. I like the one that you can sort of charge and then use.

Amanda:  Oh, I see. Okay.

Marco:  So often when you're like, I don't know what to get you, you're the hardest person to shop for.

Amanda:  You want it. I wouldn't do that. That's like getting. That just feels wrong. It's like getting somebody a vacuum. Like, they might want it, but it's like, oh, love, now you can clean me better for our house. I don't know. Just doesn't feel like a love gift. Well, too practical.

Marco:  I would like it because it would make ironing your clothes easier. But anyways.

Amanda:  Well, I know it will make it easier. I get rid of those three shirts that I barely wear for ironing.

Marco:  Then do it.

Amanda:  Yeah, the Hawaiian ones are going. Going. Bye. Bye.

Marco:  Soon. Those are my ironing tips, Amanda.

Amanda:  Great.

Marco:  I have washing machine or washing tips, too, but I'm not going to use them.

Amanda:  Oh, today.

Marco:  Because we're getting towards the end of our episode, so I just figured I

Amanda:  had the one tip and I stick by it.

Marco:  Don't buy clothes that need ironing. That's not necessarily a practical tip for women.

Amanda:  Totally.

Marco:  Okay.

Amanda:  Or anyone who wears women's clothes. Totally. And I know clothes are not gendered always, but fair enough.

Marco:  Fair enough. Well, I do like a starched collar. I'll just say that.

Amanda:  All right. And you can have it.

Marco:  There you go. I don't mind ironing. I don't. I really don't mind ironing.

Amanda:  I, know you like ironing and you like laundry.

Marco:  I do like doing, laundry. That's the one thing I like doing.

Amanda:  We've always had the agreement. We did it, like, the first week we were dating. You like laundry. I like cooking. I will cook, take care of the kitchen, launder, and you will launder, and we live happily ever after. Welcome to our boring life.

Marco:  Yep, it certainly isn't.

Amanda:  Click like and subscribe.

Marco:  There you go. Yes, please, please subscribe to the podcast or tell any friend who you may know who needs a little relax in their day and doesn't know where to find it. Our podcast is suited for that. Or if they cannot sleep. I should always do these sort of asks on the top of our show when people are still awake. But for those of you who we have listeners who will listen to the podcast episode three or four times to get to the end of it. Amanda and I'm just going to say this, you do not have to do that for us. If you fall asleep and you never get to the end of it, that's perfectly fine. But if you choose to, well, welcome back.

Marco:  All right, till next time. We hope your ironing goes smoothly and we hope you were able to listen and sleep.